Ironically, 10 years ago, the new guy on my team's previous job was at a
lumber yard and he took a pay cut to get into IT (desktop support, entry
level).  He's making more now and enjoys his job now so it was a 'right'
choice at the time but still, he did take that inital pay cut.

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Don Guyer <[email protected]> wrote:

> Same way a guy who worked at a lumber yard for 5 years did.
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> Don Guyer
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> *From:* Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 06, 2011 10:29 AM
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> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* OT question (was RE: AD and firewall ports)
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> Ok, I’m curious. How does an MD end up becoming an MCSE?
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> (serious question)
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> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA*
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> *www.eaglemds.com
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> *From:* Thomas W Shinder MD [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 06, 2011 9:50 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: AD and firewall ports
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> Firewall guys are somewhat unclear regarding the relationship of "ports"
> and their implication in a security context.
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> Often the easiest way to get around these guys is to use IPsec between the
> DMZ host and any other host on the intranet. Then you only need to allow UDP
> port 500. That makes the firewall guy happy and allows all protocols through
> the IPsec tunnel.
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> *From:* Brian Desmond [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 06, 2011 8:33 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: AD and firewall ports
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>
> *IIRC that KB that describes restricting DCOM ports actually explicitly
> recommends 100…*
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> *Thanks,*
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> *Brian Desmond*
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> *[email protected]*
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> *c   – 312.731.3132*
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> *From:* joseph palmieri [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 05, 2011 6:54 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* AD and firewall ports
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> Need assistance with firewall ports and active directory our server admin
> submitted a change request to open over 1000 port to support AD. The change
> was denied and resubmitted requesting a minimum of 100 ports to support RPC
> communications to a member server within our DMZ. Our firewall engineers
> stated while monitoring the firewall only 20 ports were communicated over
> and 100 ports are not needed.
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> Has anyone had experience with this issue and can provide some clarity…are
> the server admin looking for an easy way out by requesting all these ports?
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