To add to this, also make sure to include some kind of an internal IT
efficiency report, showing the areas where there may be waste and those
areas that can be improved.  The cloud should always be the last resort.
Vendors are promoting the cloud as the solution, when it is only a bullet
point (pretty far down the list, too, IMO) in the decision making process.

 

There are quite a few areas where efficiency can be improved in any
organization.  It could be further virtualization, or even something as
simple turning PCs off at night, saving money for power consumption and CO2
emissions.   There are quite a few vendors who offer PC power mgmt software
that show ROI in as little as 6 months, and then 100% savings after that.
Take that money and save jobs or develop innovations to actually grow the
business.  Turn IT from a cost center into a cost savings center - and make
the CIO look silly. J

 

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 12:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: domain controller in the cloud???

 

Any discussion of moving services to the cloud needs to begin with a
discussion of budgetary impact.  I say this, because it is a board member
who brings it up, throwing this back to them with some data along these
lines might give this individual board member something to truly consider.
Yes, it will require a lot of work, but I think you'll gain a lot from the
process.  Begin with your current challenges, lack of bandwidth, outages and
how you'll address those issues and the cost and stipulate it as a
requirement before moving forward.  Then, look at migrating services to the
cloud and the costs related to that.  Use five year estimates or actually
use the lifecycle of your equipment, when I was working for a school, I
still had three servers that were 7+ years.  My hunch is that the costs will
be at best equal but more than likely in favor of maintaining your own
infrastructure.



 

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
<[email protected]> wrote:

I see the point your board member is making, but the other side of that
coin, from my standpoint is, who controls the data? What happens to the data
when cloud provider of choice goes poof? What are your RPO and RTO, and how
will you achieve recovery if the primary provider goes poof?

Also, what happens when you lose your internet connection for the better
part of a day? Or, better yet, your provider loses their internet connection
because a really advanced student or two have decided to perform a DDoS on
that cloud provider because they don't want to take an exam that is brokered
by, you guessed it, a server in the cloud...

Far fetched, I know, but like everything else, a business impact analysis
should be performed to weigh the risks and benefits.

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
[email protected]
www.eaglemds.com <http://www.eaglemds.com/> 


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From: techconnect [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 11:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: domain controller in the cloud???

We are a private k-8 school and we have a board member who is telling us
that we should not buy any new servers to replace the current ones, he says
everything is moving to the cloud and so should our stuff(user folders,
authenication AD win 2003 R2 and Exchange 2003 is what we're using, they
want to move to gmail but there's no central management there I know of,and
offsite backups only.) We have about 350-400 students and faculty and they
want to be on the bandwagon to the cloud I think without understanding
everything about it(I'm not entirely clear either) and was looking for
thoughts and opinions or resources.

Thanks,
Jason
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