Which is pretty descriptive of most educational environments... :-)

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Andrew S. Baker <[email protected]> wrote:

> The numbers will definitely favor in-house equipment for organizations that
> do not upgrade frequently...
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>  On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Jonathan Link 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
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>>  Any discussion of moving services to the cloud needs to begin with a
>> discussion of budgetary impact.  I say this, because it is a board member
>> who brings it up, throwing this back to them with some data along these
>> lines might give this individual board member something to truly consider.
>> Yes, it will require a lot of work, but I think you'll gain a lot from the
>> process.  Begin with your current challenges, lack of bandwidth, outages and
>> how you'll address those issues and the cost and stipulate it as a
>> requirement before moving forward.  Then, look at migrating services to the
>> cloud and the costs related to that.  Use five year estimates or actually
>> use the lifecycle of your equipment, when I was working for a school, I
>> still had three servers that were 7+ years.  My hunch is that the costs will
>> be at best equal but more than likely in favor of maintaining your own
>> infrastructure.
>>
>>
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>>  On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>  I see the point your board member is making, but the other side of that
>>> coin, from my standpoint is, who controls the data? What happens to the data
>>> when cloud provider of choice goes poof? What are your RPO and RTO, and how
>>> will you achieve recovery if the primary provider goes poof?
>>>
>>> Also, what happens when you lose your internet connection for the better
>>> part of a day? Or, better yet, your provider loses their internet connection
>>> because a really advanced student or two have decided to perform a DDoS on
>>> that cloud provider because they don't want to take an exam that is brokered
>>> by, you guessed it, a server in the cloud...
>>>
>>> Far fetched, I know, but like everything else, a business impact analysis
>>> should be performed to weigh the risks and benefits.
>>>
>>> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
>>> Technology Coordinator
>>> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
>>> [email protected]
>>> www.eaglemds.com
>>>
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>>> From: techconnect [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 11:44 AM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>  Subject: domain controller in the cloud???
>>>
>>>  We are a private k-8 school and we have a board member who is telling
>>> us that we should not buy any new servers to replace the current ones, he
>>> says everything is moving to the cloud and so should our stuff(user folders,
>>> authenication AD win 2003 R2 and Exchange 2003 is what we're using, they
>>> want to move to gmail but there's no central management there I know of,and
>>> offsite backups only.) We have about 350-400 students and faculty and they
>>> want to be on the bandwagon to the cloud I think without understanding
>>> everything about it(I'm not entirely clear either) and was looking for
>>> thoughts and opinions or resources.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jason
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