I'm sorry to say, if war or terrorism happen all bets are really off...

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
[email protected]> wrote:

>  That was actually the first thing that came to mind, followed closely by
> some act of war/terrorism, or some kind of nuclear “accident”.
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA*
> *[email protected]*
> *www.eaglemds.com
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> *From:* Charles Whitby [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:22 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: domain controller in the cloud???
>
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>
> Coronal Mass Ejection for instance?
>
> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> *“**It's a concern I continue to have, even as I advocate the technology
> for its technical merits.”*
>
>
> I know that feeling, that’s for sure. I’ve just converted a 70 doc medical
> practice to an all electronic system, of which I was and still am a strong
> advocate. Paper charts here are, for all intents and purposes, a thing of
> the past. It’s great, access to information (potentially lifesaving) is
> almost instantaneous from anywhere in the world as long as you’ve got a
> decent internet connection and can run a Citrix plugin. It’s great – as long
> as it is *accessible*.
>
>
>
> However, I have this sinking feeling that one day, something cataclysmic
> will happen and nothing (electronic) will work. Maybe in the next few years,
> maybe not. Either for a prolonged period of time, or even indefinitely.
> Perhaps it will be a localized event that will take our data center down, or
> maybe something on a larger scale – conspiracy theories abound about end of
> days type stuff. Just because it has never happened in our recorded history,
> does that make it really so far fetched? No, I’m not off the deep end (at
> least not yet anyway), but us making ourselves more and more dependent on
> technology (not to mention the government) can and does have its drawbacks…
>
>
>
> Kinda funny how we can paint ourselves into a corner, isn’t it?
>
>
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA*
> *[email protected]*
> *www.eaglemds.com
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> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:55 AM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: domain controller in the cloud???
>
>
>
> Indeed...    It's a concern I continue to have, even as I advocate the
> technology for its technical merits.
>
>
>
> *ASB *(My Bio via About.Me <http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio>)
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> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Thought provoking, if nothing else.
>
> Thanks for sharing, Angus.
>
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> [email protected]
> www.eaglemds.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:44 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: domain controller in the cloud???
>
> On 10 Jan 2011 at 11:43, techconnect  wrote:
>
> > We are a private k-8 school and we have a board member who is telling us
> > that we should not buy any new servers to replace the current ones, he
> says
> > everything is moving to the cloud and so should our stuff(user folders,
> > authenication AD win 2003 R2 and Exchange 2003 is what we're using, they
> > want to move to gmail but there's no central management there I know
> of,and
> > offsite backups only.) We have about 350-400 students and faculty and
> they
> > want to be on the bandwagon to the cloud I think without understanding
> > everything about it(I'm not entirely clear either) and was looking for
> > thoughts and opinions or resources.
>
> Interesting take on this idea here:
>
> ============= Included Stuff Follows =============
> Why I´m Having Second Thoughts About The Wisdom Of The Cloud
>
>    "...It used to be that if the US government wanted access to documents
> or
>    letters in my possession they´d have to subpoena me directly. As a
> foreign
>    citizen there are all sorts of ways I could fight the request - and it
> was
>    at  least my choice whether to do so. As someone living in the US I also
>    had the whole weight of the 4th Amendment on my side. Now, with
> everything
>    in the cloud, the decision whether to hand over my personal information
> is
>    almost entirely out of my hands. And unless, as happened with Twitter,
> the
>    company storing my data decides to fight for openness on my behalf,
>    there´s every possibility that I won´t even hear about the request until
>    it´s too late. That´s just not how things should work in a free society.
>
>    "Of course, it remains statistically unlikely that I´m going to be the
>    subject of a subpoena any time soon. I´m hardly an enemy of the state.
> But
>    then again, until recently, neither were many of the supporters of
>    Wikileaks. Who´s to say that an innocuous organisation I give support to
>    today won´t suddenly become highly controversial tomorrow?
>
>    "For that reason, I´m giving serious thought to the idea of taking my
>    communications back out of the cloud: switching back to a traditional
>    email client and storing my documents on my encrypted hard-drive."
>
> ============= Included Stuff Ends =============
> Seen here:
>
> http://techcrunch.com/2011/01/10/why-im-having-second-thoughts-about-the-wisdom-of-the-cloud/
>
> --
> Angus Scott-Fleming
> GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
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