But, ESX is in the process of being deprecated, for several reasons - with all of which I agree.
Kurt On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 08:58, James Rankin <[email protected]> wrote: > You'd probably rarely have to go into the console itself. Doing things like > Dell hardware updates and the like isn't something you do a hell of a lot > of. That's probably the only time I find myself digging in ESX consoles. > Admittedly though ESX itself is a little friendlier than ESXi > > > On 31 January 2011 16:54, Oliver Marshall > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Yeah I really like ESXi but somehow the lack of a…..windows-like OS puts >> me off of it. Something about having a “real” desktop there to do things on >> in case we need it. >> >> >> >> Is that mad (or a sign of impending madness) ? >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> G2 Support >> >> Network Support : Online Backups : Server Management >> >> >> >> Email: [email protected] >> >> Web: http://www.g2support.com >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Jim Holmgren [mailto:[email protected]] >> *Sent:* 31 January 2011 16:51 >> >> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >> *Subject:* RE: iSCSI SANs vs FibreChannel SANs >> >> >> >> Bear in mind that Equalogic = Dell, so your source for the MD3220i should >> be the same as your source for EQL. >> >> >> >> Re: HyperV vs ESXi – can’t say much for HyperV as I’ve no real experience >> with it, but I do know firsthand that EQL does work *very* nicely with >> ESXi. >> >> >> >> Jim >> >> >> >> *From:* Oliver Marshall [mailto:[email protected]] >> *Sent:* Monday, January 31, 2011 11:48 AM >> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >> *Subject:* RE: iSCSI SANs vs FibreChannel SANs >> >> >> >> Thanks all. Good to know. I’ll spec out the prices for the MD3220i (which >> appears to the be the UK model) and also speak to Equalogic too. >> >> >> >> Next up….HyperV or ESXi J >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> G2 Support >> >> Network Support : Online Backups : Server Management >> >> >> >> Email: [email protected] >> >> Web: http://www.g2support.com >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]] >> *Sent:* 31 January 2011 16:44 >> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >> *Subject:* Re: iSCSI SANs vs FibreChannel SANs >> >> >> >> iSCSI will work just fine for hosting a VM environment, as well as some >> other workloads. >> >> >> >> If you already have a FC infrastructure, then that's not a bad reason to >> go there, but iSCSI is very mature and stable and good performance if you >> don't purchase the cheapest equipment you can find. >> >> >> >> First, as others have pointed out, you need to size up your needs... >> >> >> >> *ASB *(My Bio via About.Me <http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio>) >> *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...* >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Oliver Marshall < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Well, there will be maybe 3 VMs running on each host, most likely VM will >> have a redundant ‘spare’ running on the other physical host. The largest >> will be about 400GB+ of space running Exchange 2010 for about 100 users. >> Then perhaps a DC and a file server, and the latter will just be acting as a >> witness server for the Exchange DAG servers. >> >> >> >> I like the idea of iSCSI franky but experience of the s*** end of the >> market has put me off. Saying that the cost of the FC based setup puts me >> off even more J >> >> >> >> Olly >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* John Cook [mailto:[email protected]] >> *Sent:* 31 January 2011 16:26 >> >> >> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >> >> *Subject:* RE: iSCSI SANs vs FibreChannel SANs >> >> >> >> I have 3 MD3000/3200i SANs and they work wonderfully. That being said I >> found that while the fiber has better throughput (we also have an old 2Gb >> EMC AX150 fiber SAN) It was a lot more expensive to set up (Fiber switches >> aren’t cheap) and of course you need some marginal capability in configuring >> said switch. >> >> >> >> *John W. 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