I've setup and installed both FC and iSCSI SANs.  I think iSCSI is a great
cost alternative to FC.  Performance on iSCSI has been very good in my
scenarios (generally running 15-20 VMs).  FC provides better
performanceonly when doing constant sequential reads which may eclipse the
1GB bandwidth limitation of iSCSI.  However, during normal operations, this
seems to be extremely rare.

Ive used HP23xxi G2 model iSCSI SANs, HP 23xxfc G2 fiber channel SANs, Dell
MD3200i, and even IOmega iSCSI ix4-200d(crap performance and reliability
but good for very CHEAP iSCSI storage).  Performance-wise the Dell MD3200i
provided the best real world IO of the SANs I've worked with.  Controller
caching seems pretty important.  The more the merrier.

JR


Original Message:
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From: Oliver Marshall [email protected]
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:05:11 +0000
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: iSCSI SANs vs FibreChannel SANs


I think I just get stuck staring at the pretty line graphs....prettyyyyy
coloursssssss.......


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From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 31 January 2011 17:02
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: iSCSI SANs vs FibreChannel SANs

In my opinion, and my experience with ESXi, there's nothing to do in the
console anywyay...

What things are you thinking about?
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Oliver Marshall
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Yeah I really like ESXi but somehow the lack of a.....windows-like OS puts
me off of it. Something about having a "real" desktop there to do things on
in case we need it.

Is that mad (or a sign of impending madness)  ?


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From: Jim Holmgren
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: 31 January 2011 16:51

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: iSCSI SANs vs FibreChannel SANs

Bear in mind that Equalogic = Dell, so your source for the MD3220i should
be the same as your source for EQL.

Re:  HyperV vs ESXi - can't say much for HyperV as I've no real experience
with it, but I do know firsthand that EQL does work very nicely with ESXi.

Jim

From: Oliver Marshall
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 11:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: iSCSI SANs vs FibreChannel SANs

Thanks all. Good to know. I'll spec out the prices for the MD3220i (which
appears to the be the UK model) and also speak to Equalogic too.

Next up....HyperV or ESXi :)




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From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: 31 January 2011 16:44
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: iSCSI SANs vs FibreChannel SANs

iSCSI will work just fine for hosting a VM environment, as well as some
other workloads.

If you already have a FC infrastructure, then that's not a bad reason to go
there, but iSCSI is very mature and stable and good performance if you
don't purchase the cheapest equipment you can find.

First, as others have pointed out, you need to size up your needs...



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On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Oliver Marshall
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Well, there will be maybe 3 VMs running on each host, most likely VM will
have a redundant 'spare' running on the other physical host. The largest
will be about 400GB+ of space running Exchange 2010 for about 100 users.
Then perhaps a DC and a file server, and the latter will just be acting as
a witness server for the Exchange DAG servers.

I like the idea of iSCSI franky but experience of the s*** end of the
market has put me off. Saying that the cost of the FC based setup puts me
off even more :)

Olly


From: John Cook [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: 31 January 2011 16:26

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: iSCSI SANs vs FibreChannel SANs

I have 3 MD3000/3200i SANs and they work wonderfully. That being said I
found that while the fiber has better throughput (we also have an old 2Gb
EMC AX150 fiber SAN) It was a lot more expensive to set up (Fiber switches
aren't cheap) and of course you need some marginal capability in
configuring said switch.

 John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352) 244-1610
Cell     (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 11:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: iSCSI SANs vs FibreChannel SANs

Not a direct answer, but another shared storage option you could consider
for that setup is an MD3XXX.
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Oliver Marshall
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Chaps

We're buying some bits to build a basic VM platform so that we can get rid
of some old rack servers here.
Being new to decent SANs (we have some crappy iscsi hardware that we just
use for dumping scrap data on) what are peoples thoughts of iSCSI SANs vs
FibreChannel SANs? We are planning on having two physical hosts (probably
Dell PE710s running either Hyper-V or ESXi) with a lump of shared storage
on a SAN but we are at odds here as to whether we should go iSCSI or FC.

Any comments or suggestions?

Olly



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