Good point.

A query on the past few years of data should indicate how much data is
already stored annually, and how much it has grown year to year.


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On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Terry Dickson
<[email protected]>wrote:

>  OK I have to ask, if you have historical data back to 1982 you should be
> able to get a pretty good idea on growth.  Just start adding the historical
> and then check on size.
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Ryan Finnesey [[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 06, 2011 6:48 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: forecast database growth?
>
>   Thank you this is helpful.  I need to design the storage and VMs that
> will run BizTalk and SQL.  I am just a bit uneasy because we will never
> delete any data that comes in from the feed and we will also be adding
> historical data going back to 1982 .
>
>
>
> *From:* Ken Schaefer [mailto:]
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 06, 2011 6:17 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: forecast database growth?
>
>
>
> “grows quickly” is relative. I’ve got a DB that sometimes grows by around
> 300m records/day. So more than 200,000 records/minute J
>
>
>
> In any case, if you are wanting to look at file size growth, it doesn’t
> matter how many inserts you do per second/minute/whatever. Look at your row
> size, and multiply by the number of inserts (you’ll reclaim free space
> through deletes).
>
>
>
> Side note: when talking DBs, I would avoid saying “each update is an
> insert” as that will start to confuse your DBAs. An update is a type of
> query that alters an existing row of data. An insert appends a new row of
> data. Inserts and updates are mutually exclusive.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> *From:* Ryan Finnesey [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Monday, 7 February 2011 6:25 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: forecast database growth?
>
>
>
> So each update will be an insert and I will have thousands of new rows per 
> minute
> so this database is going to grow quickly.
>
>
>
> *From:* Ken Schaefer [mailto:]
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 06, 2011 5:34 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: forecast database growth?
>
>
>
> An update (that changes an existing row) isn’t going to cause any growth.
>
>
>
> Inserts will cause growth. Simply look at the size of each row (add up the
> size of each column, then add a few % for overhead). If you know you are
> adding 1 row/minute, and each row is 1KB, then you’ll be adding 60KB/hour.
>
>
>
> Cheers
> Ken
>
>
>
> *From:* Ryan Finnesey [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Sunday, 6 February 2011 3:46 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: forecast database growth?
>
>
>
> Hey Andrew
>
>
>
> The database is going to update about once per minute, we will be receiving
> the speed of the aircraft, altitude, latitude and latitude.  In most cases
> between updates the altitude and speed will remain the same but the latitude
> and latitude will always be updated.  We need to be able to query the
> database and at any time within the flight have it return speed of the
> aircraft, altitude, latitude and latitude
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ryan
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:]
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 05, 2011 7:09 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: forecast database growth?
>
>
>
> Hey, Ryan
>
>
>
> That's largely going to be determined by the size and frequency of
> updates...
>
>
>
> I'm not sure it's a tool that you need to resolve this issue, as much as
> some indication as to what is going into the DB and how often.
>
>
>
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>
>
> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 7:02 AM, Ryan Finnesey <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi All
>
>
>
> I am hoping the group can help me out.  We will soon be designing an
> application that will be holding location information on aircraft in flight;
> we will be receiving a large number of XML messages with this location data
> that we will process with BizTalk and them feed into SQL.  Are there any
> tools we can use to forecast database growth?
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ryan
>
>
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