I do not have the data yet.  I wish I did it would make my design a
little easier.

 

 

From: Terry Dickson [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 8:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: forecast database growth?

 

OK I have to ask, if you have historical data back to 1982 you should be
able to get a pretty good idea on growth.  Just start adding the
historical and then check on size.

________________________________

From: Ryan Finnesey [[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 6:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: forecast database growth?

Thank you this is helpful.  I need to design the storage and VMs that
will run BizTalk and SQL.  I am just a bit uneasy because we will never
delete any data that comes in from the feed and we will also be adding
historical data going back to 1982 .  

 

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:] 
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 6:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: forecast database growth?

 

"grows quickly" is relative. I've got a DB that sometimes grows by
around 300m records/day. So more than 200,000 records/minute J

 

In any case, if you are wanting to look at file size growth, it doesn't
matter how many inserts you do per second/minute/whatever. Look at your
row size, and multiply by the number of inserts (you'll reclaim free
space through deletes). 

 

Side note: when talking DBs, I would avoid saying "each update is an
insert" as that will start to confuse your DBAs. An update is a type of
query that alters an existing row of data. An insert appends a new row
of data. Inserts and updates are mutually exclusive.

 

Cheers

Ken

 

From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, 7 February 2011 6:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: forecast database growth?

 

So each update will be an insert and I will have thousands of new rows
per minute so this database is going to grow quickly.  

 

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:] 
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 5:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: forecast database growth?

 

An update (that changes an existing row) isn't going to cause any
growth.

 

Inserts will cause growth. Simply look at the size of each row (add up
the size of each column, then add a few % for overhead). If you know you
are adding 1 row/minute, and each row is 1KB, then you'll be adding
60KB/hour.

 

Cheers
Ken

 

From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Sunday, 6 February 2011 3:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: forecast database growth?

 

Hey Andrew

 

The database is going to update about once per minute, we will be
receiving the speed of the aircraft, altitude, latitude and latitude.
In most cases between updates the altitude and speed will remain the
same but the latitude and latitude will always be updated.  We need to
be able to query the database and at any time within the flight have it
return speed of the aircraft, altitude, latitude and latitude

 

Cheers

Ryan

 

 

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:] 
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 7:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Re: forecast database growth?

 

Hey, Ryan

 

That's largely going to be determined by the size and frequency of
updates...

 

I'm not sure it's a tool that you need to resolve this issue, as much as
some indication as to what is going into the DB and how often.


 

ASB (Find me online via About.Me <http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio> ) 
Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...

 

 

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 7:02 AM, Ryan Finnesey
<[email protected]> wrote:

Hi All

 

I am hoping the group can help me out.  We will soon be designing an
application that will be holding location information on aircraft in
flight; we will be receiving a large number of XML messages with this
location data that we will process with BizTalk and them feed into SQL.
Are there any tools we can use to forecast database growth?

 

Cheers

Ryan

 

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