We've been giving people laptops for years. They typically have even more data 
on them than phones. Why aren't you railing against that?

Cheers
Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, 11 February 2011 3:13 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

Two more words, "NO Battery" = NO remote Wipe, therefore dispense with that 
fallacy that its going to save you, because it doesn't do a secure wipe of the 
drive itself, which allows an attacker with the phone to basically hook it up 
to a device offline and download the information on the phone and do what they 
want with it. 

Aaron Turner of the IANS faculity is a subject matter expert in these areas and 
have put on a lot of talks, and the news is pretty grim atm. 

Basically storing any type of sensitive information on the BB, Android, Iphone, 
etc etc is like playing Russian roulette with a loaded gun pointed straight at 
your face, one of these times it isn't going to go well for you. 

But this is the risk that business continue to take over and over again, 
because the users are clammering for these devices, and the functionality they 
bring, but are clearly blind to the security and information disclosure aspects 
and how the loss, theft of data could be the business undoing. 

Sincerely,
EZ

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:[email protected]
Cell:401-639-3505

-----Original Message-----
From: S Powell [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes

two words.

remote wipe.

Yep, big security issue, but if someone has physical control of your device, 
any device,  you should always consider it compromised.




@THIS STATMENT IS VERIFIABLY INCORRECT



On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 08:40, David Lum <[email protected]> wrote:
> What I don't know is if this phone OS is any worse than anything else 
> in use. Anyone care to comment?:
>
>
>
> "Among passwords that could be revealed were those for Google Mail as 
> an MS Exchange account, other MS Exchange accounts, LDAP accounts, 
> voicemail, VPN passwords, WiFi passwords and some App passwords"
>
>
>
> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9208920/IPhone_attack_reveals_p
> asswords_in_six_minutes?taxonomyId=85
>
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