Just because there are more options available to laptops doesn't mean those
options are actually employed on most cases.

And in sure that more laptops with sensitive info are lost each week, than
mobile devices with sensitive info.  Eventually, that number will change,
but we haven't shown any major desire to stem the tide of the existing
problem.

-ASB: http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker

Sent from my Motorola Droid
 On Feb 11, 2011 7:52 AM, "Ziots, Edward" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Honestly, if its portable, light and popular ( Iphone, Ipad, I "don't need
this version 1,2,3,4") its going to be a target, and given the lack of
controls and encryption available for these devices is just a big problem
that everyone is dealing with and it has little solutions at this time,
which is unfortunate for all of us.
>
> As for laptops there are more controls, some of them, when implemented
properly, comply with state and federal regulations and provide additional
protection against information disclosure/theft.
>
> Is it fool proof (nope), but it's the best we have right now. Honestly, I
would rather see virtual desktops with no data residing on them after they
are destroyed, and a secure method to access them, even if it was on a
Tablet, IPAD etc etc.
>
> Again a lot to think about from a lot of different angles and what works
for one customer in one country might not even begin to cut the mustard in
another, so mileage will vary.
>
> EZ
>
> Edward E. Ziots
> CISSP, Network +, Security +
> Network Engineer
> Lifespan Organization
> Email:[email protected]
> Cell:401-639-3505
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 2:40 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes
>
> We've been giving people laptops for years. They typically have even more
data on them than phones. Why aren't you railing against that?
>
> Cheers
> Ken
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, 11 February 2011 3:13 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes
>
> Two more words, "NO Battery" = NO remote Wipe, therefore dispense with
that fallacy that its going to save you, because it doesn't do a secure wipe
of the drive itself, which allows an attacker with the phone to basically
hook it up to a device offline and download the information on the phone and
do what they want with it.
>
> Aaron Turner of the IANS faculity is a subject matter expert in these
areas and have put on a lot of talks, and the news is pretty grim atm.
>
> Basically storing any type of sensitive information on the BB, Android,
Iphone, etc etc is like playing Russian roulette with a loaded gun pointed
straight at your face, one of these times it isn't going to go well for you.

>
> But this is the risk that business continue to take over and over again,
because the users are clammering for these devices, and the functionality
they bring, but are clearly blind to the security and information disclosure
aspects and how the loss, theft of data could be the business undoing.
>
> Sincerely,
> EZ
>
> Edward E. Ziots
> CISSP, Network +, Security +
> Network Engineer
> Lifespan Organization
> Email:[email protected]
> Cell:401-639-3505
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: S Powell [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:10 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes
>
> two words.
>
> remote wipe.
>
> Yep, big security issue, but if someone has physical control of your
device, any device, you should always consider it compromised.
>
>
>
>
> @THIS STATMENT IS VERIFIABLY INCORRECT
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 08:40, David Lum <[email protected]> wrote:
>> What I don't know is if this phone OS is any worse than anything else
>> in use. Anyone care to comment?:
>>
>>
>>
>> "Among passwords that could be revealed were those for Google Mail as
>> an MS Exchange account, other MS Exchange accounts, LDAP accounts,
>> voicemail, VPN passwords, WiFi passwords and some App passwords"
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9208920/IPhone_attack_reveals_p
>> asswords_in_six_minutes?taxonomyId=85
>>
>>
>>
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