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Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:[email protected] Cell:401-639-3505 From: Jonathan [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 9:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Today is the end of the line for me, Hey Z - just shot you an email from my Eagle email address. Please let me know whether or not you got it (in case for some reason your filter would have blocked my direct email.) Regards, Jonathan - Thumb typed from my HTC Droid Incredible (and yes, it really is) on the Verizon network. On Feb 17, 2011 8:19 PM, "Ziots, Edward" <[email protected]> wrote: > I think after this day I have come to the conclusion is time to move on, > if there is companies in the RI/MASS/CT area looking for a security > engineer, please contact me at the email below. If the distance is under > 1.5 hrs I am game. > > Z > > Edward E. Ziots > CISSP, Network +, Security + > Network Engineer > Lifespan Organization > Email:[email protected] <mailto:email%[email protected]> > Cell:401-639-3505 > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:50 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Thoughts on this pitch from Trend > > Every SBS site I manage has two servers just to offload some of that > (that, and have redundant DC's). In some cases the "server" is a > desktop, but it keeps that much less activity off the SBS server. AV and > WSUS, that's what an older desktop is good for :-). > > Dave > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Humphries [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 11:46 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Thoughts on this pitch from Trend > > I think some of the issues have to do with smaller installations. We > have several clients that install the A/V server software on an SBS > server...and Trend can bog it down with the smart scan features enabled. > > > Jonathan wrote: >> Very interesting.... >> >> We switched from McAfee to Trend a year ago. Between 500 and 600 >> nodes, including servers, and we have not experienced problems like >> what some of you have described...we are controlling updates from our >> own internal server, and we are not utilizing Trend's cloudy offering. >> [1] >> >> We've been *very* happy. (of course we did come from McAfee, so I >> guess everything is relative.) :-) >> >> Jonathan >> >> [1] cloudy, get it? I crack myself up.... (I can ear the roans and >> eyerolls now...) >> >> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:25 PM, David Lum <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >>> Excellent to be aware of, thanks guys. %dayjob% environment is > infinitely >>> more complex than my client of 55 seats. What AV do you recommend? > Vipre is >>> on the list, as is Symantec (beyond my control). Trend was the third > but I >>> am open to nixing them in favor of something else. >>> >>> >>> >>> %dayjob% = 450+ seats with dozens (50+) remote workers that work from > home, >>> multiple SAN's, couple hundred servers, blah blah blah... >>> >>> >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 9:16 AM >>> >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: Re: Thoughts on this pitch from Trend >>> >>> >>> >>> Yeh happened all over apart from on the sites, that had brand new > over >>> specced servers, with brand new fast PC's with an abundance of memory > but >>> even they exhibited a measurable slowdown. >>> >>> >>> >>> I personally do not like any software package that at 850MB when > downloaded >>> expands to take up 8.5GB on the server within 4 days. >>> >>> >>> >>> And the supports advise is to switch off the new features, and leave > you >>> with the functionality of the old version, but doesn't improve > performance. >>> >>> >>> >>> It also seriously corrupted a DFS share, and database on one site, > again >>> there are technet articles and such that state that Trend needs to be >>> disabled from scanning DFS databases and shares, but that was only > after teh >>> damage was done. >>> >>> >>> >>> Version 4 -5 issues on upgrade, and a rapid release of 5.1 to solve > them. 5 >>> - 6 serious issues on upgrade, no fix, even 6.1 didnt solve the > problems. >>> The only fix was complete removal, and replace with a different > product. >>> >>> >>> >>> I have raised the issues with Trend, and told them we were stopping > selling >>> their product, and would only continue renewing existing licenses who > wanted >>> to stay with Trend, and nothing was done. >>> >>> >>> >>> They keep phoning every couple of months, to see why were not selling > and I >>> keep telling them, but they never respond, until its chase sales > figures >>> time. >>> >>> >>> >>> YMMV but they have seriously burnt my birdges, and indirectly cost my >>> company money, in fixing issues caused by their software. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 17 February 2011 17:07, David Lum <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Weird, no issue in the environment I support when I upgraded them. > Small >>> environment though, 55 systems, fairly "clean" clients and just two > sites. >>> >>> >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 8:49 AM >>> >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> >>> Cc: Steven Peck >>> Subject: Re: Thoughts on this pitch from Trend >>> >>> >>> >>> Would avoid Tren Worry Free like the plague. >>> >>> >>> >>> It killed (literally stopped servers and clients talking, due to scan >>> overload, and resource hogging) 4 networks when it was upgraded from > 5 to 6, >>> >>> >>> >>> Had to remove it and install vipre which made very angry clients very > happy >>> >>> >>> >>> Graeme >>> >>> >>> >>> On 17 February 2011 16:44, Steven Peck <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Here we go >>> http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2011-01-07/ >>> >>> Steven Peck >>> http://www.blkmtn.org >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Mike Gill > <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Bla bla, our def files are I the cloud, bla bla, something about >>> virtualization density, bla bla cloud, bla bla bla. >>> >>> >>> >>> Of the different AV product I have worked with, all of them allow for > an >>> alternate server location for def updates if a local store isn't > available. >>> I'm not sure what they're trying to sell, but they like saying cloud > over >>> and over. J >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mike Gill >>> >>> >>> >>> From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 7:02 AM >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: Thoughts on this pitch from Trend >>> >>> >>> >>> It's 3:43 long. Their WorryFree product does this as well and seems > to work >>> OK at the client of 55 machines that has it (it gives you the option > to >>> update from the local Trend machine or from Trend's servers). >>> >>> >>> >>> Seems to me they're using "cloud" to mean "clients update from us and > not >>> your local server". 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