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</Sinister Laugh> My evil plan is working... :-) JR On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Maglinger, Paul <[email protected]> wrote: > Way to go Jonathan! Now you’ve started a mass exodus! > > > > From: Pete Howard [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 10:36 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Today is the end of the line for me, > > > > Now I want to move on too ! > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Jonathan <[email protected]> > > To: NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]> > Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 11:13:39 PM > Subject: Re: Today is the end of the line for me, > > +100 > > Wow. I wish I had read that a LONG time ago. > > On a positive note, I AM moving on, and quite excited about it. > > Hang in there Z! > > Jonathan - Thumb typed from my HTC Droid Incredible (and yes, it really is) > on the Verizon network. > > On Feb 17, 2011 9:31 PM, "Andrew S. Baker" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Excellent article >> >> -ASB: http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker >> >> Sent from my Motorola Droid >> On Feb 17, 2011 8:28 PM, "Jonathan Link" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> This may be appropriate to your mood. >>> http://www.asktheheadhunter.com/hawall.htm >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Ziots, Edward <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>>> I think after this day I have come to the conclusion is time to move on, >>>> if there is companies in the RI/MASS/CT area looking for a security >>>> engineer, please contact me at the email below. If the distance is under >>>> 1.5 hrs I am game. >>>> >>>> Z >>>> >>>> Edward E. Ziots >>>> CISSP, Network +, Security + >>>> Network Engineer >>>> Lifespan Organization >>>> Email:[email protected] >>>> Cell:401-639-3505 >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:50 PM >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>> Subject: RE: Thoughts on this pitch from Trend >>>> >>>> Every SBS site I manage has two servers just to offload some of that >>>> (that, and have redundant DC's). In some cases the "server" is a >>>> desktop, but it keeps that much less activity off the SBS server. AV and >>>> WSUS, that's what an older desktop is good for :-). >>>> >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Bill Humphries [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 11:46 AM >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>> Subject: Re: Thoughts on this pitch from Trend >>>> >>>> I think some of the issues have to do with smaller installations. We >>>> have several clients that install the A/V server software on an SBS >>>> server...and Trend can bog it down with the smart scan features enabled. >>>> >>>> >>>> Jonathan wrote: >>>> > Very interesting.... >>>> > >>>> > We switched from McAfee to Trend a year ago. Between 500 and 600 >>>> > nodes, including servers, and we have not experienced problems like >>>> > what some of you have described...we are controlling updates from our >>>> > own internal server, and we are not utilizing Trend's cloudy offering. >>>> > [1] >>>> > >>>> > We've been *very* happy. (of course we did come from McAfee, so I >>>> > guess everything is relative.) :-) >>>> > >>>> > Jonathan >>>> > >>>> > [1] cloudy, get it? I crack myself up.... (I can ear the roans and >>>> > eyerolls now...) >>>> > >>>> > On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:25 PM, David Lum <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> Excellent to be aware of, thanks guys. %dayjob% environment is >>>> infinitely >>>> >> more complex than my client of 55 seats. What AV do you recommend? >>>> Vipre is >>>> >> on the list, as is Symantec (beyond my control). Trend was the third >>>> but I >>>> >> am open to nixing them in favor of something else. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> %dayjob% = 450+ seats with dozens (50+) remote workers that work from >>>> home, >>>> >> multiple SAN's, couple hundred servers, blah blah blah... >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Dave >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> >> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 9:16 AM >>>> >> >>>> >> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>> >> Subject: Re: Thoughts on this pitch from Trend >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Yeh happened all over apart from on the sites, that had brand new >>>> over >>>> >> specced servers, with brand new fast PC's with an abundance of memory >>>> but >>>> >> even they exhibited a measurable slowdown. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> I personally do not like any software package that at 850MB when >>>> downloaded >>>> >> expands to take up 8.5GB on the server within 4 days. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> And the supports advise is to switch off the new features, and leave >>>> you >>>> >> with the functionality of the old version, but doesn't improve >>>> performance. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> It also seriously corrupted a DFS share, and database on one site, >>>> again >>>> >> there are technet articles and such that state that Trend needs to be >>>> >> disabled from scanning DFS databases and shares, but that was only >>>> after teh >>>> >> damage was done. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Version 4 -5 issues on upgrade, and a rapid release of 5.1 to solve >>>> them. 5 >>>> >> - 6 serious issues on upgrade, no fix, even 6.1 didnt solve the >>>> problems. >>>> >> The only fix was complete removal, and replace with a different >>>> product. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> I have raised the issues with Trend, and told them we were stopping >>>> selling >>>> >> their product, and would only continue renewing existing licenses who >>>> wanted >>>> >> to stay with Trend, and nothing was done. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> They keep phoning every couple of months, to see why were not selling >>>> and I >>>> >> keep telling them, but they never respond, until its chase sales >>>> figures >>>> >> time. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> YMMV but they have seriously burnt my birdges, and indirectly cost my >>>> >> company money, in fixing issues caused by their software. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> On 17 February 2011 17:07, David Lum <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> Weird, no issue in the environment I support when I upgraded them. >>>> Small >>>> >> environment though, 55 systems, fairly "clean" clients and just two >>>> sites. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Dave >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> >> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 8:49 AM >>>> >> >>>> >> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>> >> >>>> >> Cc: Steven Peck >>>> >> Subject: Re: Thoughts on this pitch from Trend >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Would avoid Tren Worry Free like the plague. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> It killed (literally stopped servers and clients talking, due to scan >>>> >> overload, and resource hogging) 4 networks when it was upgraded from >>>> 5 to 6, >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Had to remove it and install vipre which made very angry clients very >>>> happy >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Graeme >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> On 17 February 2011 16:44, Steven Peck <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> Here we go >>>> >> http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2011-01-07/ >>>> >> >>>> >> Steven Peck >>>> >> http://www.blkmtn.org >>>> >> >>>> >> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Mike Gill >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> >> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> Bla bla, our def files are I the cloud, bla bla, something about >>>> >> virtualization density, bla bla cloud, bla bla bla. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Of the different AV product I have worked with, all of them allow for >>>> an >>>> >> alternate server location for def updates if a local store isn't >>>> available. >>>> >> I'm not sure what they're trying to sell, but they like saying cloud >>>> over >>>> >> and over. J >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> -- >>>> >> Mike Gill >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> >> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 7:02 AM >>>> >> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>> >> Subject: Thoughts on this pitch from Trend >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> It's 3:43 long. Their WorryFree product does this as well and seems >>>> to work >>>> >> OK at the client of 55 machines that has it (it gives you the option >>>> to >>>> >> update from the local Trend machine or from Trend's servers). >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Seems to me they're using "cloud" to mean "clients update from us and >>>> not >>>> >> your local server". 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