False positives are an unfortunate fact of detection, in any shape or form.
I think, as others have said, Mr Hasan needs to concentrate on verifying his facts rather than chasing the media to get his name out there. *Security researcher*? Hmmmm On 31 March 2011 16:35, Alex Eckelberry <[email protected]> wrote: > I wrote a response this morning: > > > > > http://sunbeltblog.blogspot.com/2011/03/samsung-laptops-do-not-have-keylogger.html > > > > > > Alex > > > > *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Thursday, March 31, 2011 9:20 AM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: Samsung keylogger with Vipre mention > > > > I find fault with both. J > > > > I agree with you. > > > > Regards, > > > > Michael B. Smith > > Consultant and Exchange MVP > > http://TheEssentialExchange.com > > > > *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Thursday, March 31, 2011 9:18 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Samsung keylogger with Vipre mention > > > > Oh, I agree, but you seem to be finding fault with the tool. I find fault > witht he professional using the tool. > > It seems to me, that many of us forget to test for repeatability, and fewer > know how to do to that properly. My opinion of a security research trying > to make a name for himself, and there's no doubt that's what this episode > was all about, should have enough intellectual rigor to attack the problem > from all angles before "publishing" findings. If I'm a client of NetSec > Consulting (firm he founded), and I catch wind of this, I won't be a client > for very long. > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Michael B. Smith <[email protected]> > wrote: > > The challenge/issue here is that every AV has false positives. > > > > Most of them, however, don’t get written up and /.’ed. The original author > should’ve tested with multiple engines. > > > > And, as Vipre starts to play with the big boys, they are going to get > “big-boy” levels of attention… > > > > Regards, > > > > Michael B. Smith > > Consultant and Exchange MVP > > http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/> > > > > *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Thursday, March 31, 2011 9:04 AM > > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > > *Subject:* Re: Samsung keylogger with Vipre mention > > > > Has someone had a career changing event? > > > > > On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Michael B. Smith <[email protected]> > wrote: > > And it’s easily possible to reproduce with Vipre… It’s a false alarm. > > > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/31/samsung_keylogger_rumour_debunked/ > > > > Regards, > > > > Michael B. Smith > > Consultant and Exchange MVP > > http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/> > > > > *From:* Ken Schaefer [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Thursday, March 31, 2011 7:44 AM > > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > > *Subject:* RE: Samsung keylogger with Vipre mention > > > > Samsung denies, according to their blog: > > http://www.samsungtomorrow.com/1071 > > > > Cheers > > Ken > > > > *From:* Andrew S. 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