Hmm, yeah that sounds familiar. Its been a while since I messed with it. But I was referencing the release notes here. Looks like waik is only listed for LTI installs, but SCCM is required for the other two options.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?familyid=3bd8561f-77ac-4400-a0c1-fe871c461a89&displaylang=en&tm Prerequisites For Lite Touch Installation (LTI) deployments, MDT 2010 Update 1 requires the following components, regardless of the operating system being deployed. Install these components only on the computer on which you install MDT 2010 Update 1: * Microsoft Management Console (MMC) version 3.0 * Microsoft .NET Framework version 2.0 or version 3.5 with Service Pack 1 (SP1) * Windows PowerShell(tm) version 1.0 or 2.0 * Windows Automated Installation Kit (Windows AIK) for Windows 7 For Zero Touch Installation (ZTI) deployments, MDT 2010 Update 1 requires the following components: * If deploying Windows 7 or Windows Server 2008 R2, System Center Configuration Manager 2007 with SP2 is required. The installation of System Center Configuration Manager with SP2 also upgrades the Windows AIK to the version compatible with Windows 7. * If deploying pre-Windows 7 versions of the Windows operating system (such as Windows Vista or Windows XP), you can continue to use System Center Configuration Manager 2007 with SP1. MDT 2010 Update 1 supports System Center Configuration Manager 2007 with SP1, although you cannot use the Deployment Workbench in this configuration to maintain an MDT database (MDT DB), as the Deployment Workbench requires the Windows AIK for Windows 7. If you are using an MDT DB with System Center Configuration Manager, use System Center Configuration Manager 2007 with SP2. For UDI deployments, MDT 2010 Update 1 requires the following components: * System Center Configuration Manager 2007 with SP2 * Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 with SP1 * For the UDI web service: * Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 7.0 (including having IIS 6 Management Compatibility and Windows Authentication enabled) * Microsoft ASP .Net 2.0 (build 2.0.5072) * Microsoft SQL Server(r) 2008 or Microsoft SQL Server 2005 From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 5:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging Nope, you can install it. Granted, the list of things you can accomplish without WAIK is small. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 6:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging Isn't waik a requirement for installing MDT? Or is there some version specific things I'm overlooking? From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 4:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging If you are using any higher-level of the stack (MDT or SCCM) do NOT install WAIK 3.0 (that's why I didn't mention it). It has breaking changes. As for your other questions: yes, you can simply install the newer versions. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jim Dandy [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 5:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging >From what I can tell based on dates (installed 11/3/09), I don't have update 1 >of MDT although I can't find the version number anywhere. According to >add/remove programs it is version 5.0.1641.0. How can I tell what version I >have? If I have just 2010 (no update) how do I go about updating it? Can I >just download and install MDT 2010 Update 1 over the top of my present >installation? Similarly, I can't find a version number for my WAIK (Installed 11/3/09). My Windows System Image Manager says version 6.1.7600.16385. How can I tell what version I have and can I just update by installing over the top? It looks like there is a WAIK 3.0 now http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=696dd665-9f76-4177-a811-39c26d3b3b34&displaylang=en Thanks for your help. Curt Finley From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 1:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging So, Microsoft doesn't just have a "Windows Deployment Services Server", they have an entire deployment stack. From the most basic elements, to the most complex, it goes like this (along with current versions): Windows Pre-Execution Environment (WinPE) 3.0 Windows Automated Installation Kit (WAIK) 2.0 Windows Deployment Services Server (WDS) 2008 R2 Microsoft Deployment Toolkit (MDT) 2010 Update 1 (optional) System Center Configuration Manager (SCCM) 2007 R3 MDT can interface with SCCM (it simplifies some basic deployment steps), but SCCM is not required for MDT to be installed standalone. Nothing that MDT or that WDS or that WAIK does is magic. All of it can be duplicated by scripting or by using third-party tools. They are there to make life easier. WinPE has some magic in it, though. :) WinPE plus WAIK are the minimum of what you need to do deployment work (with a reasonable amount of effort as opposed to LOTS of effort). They include WinPE boot images, the ImageX and DISM tools, CD/DVD burning utilities, driver libraries, etc. etc. When you install the WDS server role, and WAIK is not installed on your server, a mini-version of WinPE+WAIK is installed as part of the role (basically, x86 and x64 boot images plus sysprep support). All that just to say, and to be clear: if you have WinPE plus WAIK, you can do anything you want to do to an image. Inject, delete, create, modify, whole disk, single partition, multiple partition, GPT, Fat32/NTFS/utility, etc. etc. etc. You can certainly do what you want. You just have to learn the tools. They are VERY different from those that came before. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jonathan [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows 7 Imaging This is pertinent to a conversation I just had with my counterpart @ work on the west coast. They have to image 5,500 machines for a client and he mentioned that WDS would only image at the partition level. They are looking for whole disk imaging. Will WDS do that or should he be looking at something else? Thanks, Jonathan On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Tom Miller <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Folks, We are working towards deploying Windows 7 (along with Office 2010) on current and future shipments of new laptops/PCs. We use syprep and Ghost for our XP image, and it works well. I'm looking for your suggestions/warnings/gotchas as to imaging for Windows 7. Favorite imaging tools, methods, etc? I don't do the imaging here, but my PC guy who does the images seems to be having a bit of a struggle with it compared to XP images, so I thought I'd as you experts. We already have a Dell Kace system management system here, and I'll be viewing a demo today for the imaging component (additional purchase). 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