Yeah, the cost to upgrade to the enterprise cal was more than offset when we dropped Ninja and Vipre. FEP has been great and you just can't beat the MS licensing for schools. Plus that gave us all the other benefits of the enterprise cal. (I'm assuming that's what you mean by eCAL)
From: Brian Desmond [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 9:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging My understanding is that it's all inside the SCCM instance somehow. I have SCCM people so I just know the basics. For EDU yeah it's dirt cheap ($57 annual retail for you). We've done around half a dozen of these in the past six to eight months for higher ed customers - it's selling itself. If you have the eCAL, there is usually /substantial/ savings with getting FEP (Forefront Endpoint) deployed as part of this. Thanks, Brian Desmond [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> c - 312.731.3132 From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging Yeah, that's the situation we're in. In fact we already have the SCCM license since it's so cheap through our campus agreement ($50/yr maybe). I really haven't even glanced at it yet, but that's my plan for the near future. Is it such that I can load SCCM onto one server with no reliance on a separate WDS server at all? From: Brian Desmond [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging I've been pretty impressed with the SCCM value-add here from the demos I've seen and meetings I've listened in on. If you're a Core CAL customer (or eCAL of course), you already own SCCM CALs and are just on the nut for the server license. You only have to license the primary site server. Thanks, Brian Desmond [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> c - 312.731.3132 From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging So, Microsoft doesn't just have a "Windows Deployment Services Server", they have an entire deployment stack. From the most basic elements, to the most complex, it goes like this (along with current versions): Windows Pre-Execution Environment (WinPE) 3.0 Windows Automated Installation Kit (WAIK) 2.0 Windows Deployment Services Server (WDS) 2008 R2 Microsoft Deployment Toolkit (MDT) 2010 Update 1 (optional) System Center Configuration Manager (SCCM) 2007 R3 MDT can interface with SCCM (it simplifies some basic deployment steps), but SCCM is not required for MDT to be installed standalone. Nothing that MDT or that WDS or that WAIK does is magic. All of it can be duplicated by scripting or by using third-party tools. They are there to make life easier. WinPE has some magic in it, though. :) WinPE plus WAIK are the minimum of what you need to do deployment work (with a reasonable amount of effort as opposed to LOTS of effort). They include WinPE boot images, the ImageX and DISM tools, CD/DVD burning utilities, driver libraries, etc. etc. When you install the WDS server role, and WAIK is not installed on your server, a mini-version of WinPE+WAIK is installed as part of the role (basically, x86 and x64 boot images plus sysprep support). All that just to say, and to be clear: if you have WinPE plus WAIK, you can do anything you want to do to an image. Inject, delete, create, modify, whole disk, single partition, multiple partition, GPT, Fat32/NTFS/utility, etc. etc. etc. You can certainly do what you want. You just have to learn the tools. They are VERY different from those that came before. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jonathan [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows 7 Imaging This is pertinent to a conversation I just had with my counterpart @ work on the west coast. They have to image 5,500 machines for a client and he mentioned that WDS would only image at the partition level. They are looking for whole disk imaging. Will WDS do that or should he be looking at something else? Thanks, Jonathan On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Tom Miller <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Folks, We are working towards deploying Windows 7 (along with Office 2010) on current and future shipments of new laptops/PCs. We use syprep and Ghost for our XP image, and it works well. I'm looking for your suggestions/warnings/gotchas as to imaging for Windows 7. Favorite imaging tools, methods, etc? I don't do the imaging here, but my PC guy who does the images seems to be having a bit of a struggle with it compared to XP images, so I thought I'd as you experts. We already have a Dell Kace system management system here, and I'll be viewing a demo today for the imaging component (additional purchase). 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