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 On May 11, 2011 6:34 PM, "Jim Dandy" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks for the super-fast response!
>
>
>
> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 3:29 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging
>
>
>
> If you have a newer level of WAIK (which the WAIK supplement is) that's
> fine.
>
>
>
> Originally, we just had WINPE 3.1 without anything else.
>
>
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> However - that still isn't safe to use with SCCM 2007 R3. But with MDT,
> I understand it's OK (I haven't tested it personally).
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
>
> From: Jim Dandy [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 6:27 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging
>
>
>
> You said below to not install WAIK 3.0 if I am using MDT. What about
> installing the WAIK supplement for Windows 7 SP1? It seems at the very
> least I should extract Win PE 3.1 from it for compatibility with
> Advanced Format (4K) Drives (or patch PE 3.0 with 982018)?
>
>
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
>
>
> Curt
>
>
>
> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 2:19 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging
>
>
>
> If you are using any higher-level of the stack (MDT or SCCM) do NOT
> install WAIK 3.0 (that's why I didn't mention it).
>
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>
> It has breaking changes.
>
>
>
> As for your other questions: yes, you can simply install the newer
> versions.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
>
> From: Jim Dandy [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 5:16 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging
>
>
>
> From what I can tell based on dates (installed 11/3/09), I don't have
> update 1 of MDT although I can't find the version number anywhere.
> According to add/remove programs it is version 5.0.1641.0. How can I
> tell what version I have? If I have just 2010 (no update) how do I go
> about updating it? Can I just download and install MDT 2010 Update 1
> over the top of my present installation?
>
>
>
> Similarly, I can't find a version number for my WAIK (Installed
> 11/3/09). My Windows System Image Manager says version 6.1.7600.16385.
> How can I tell what version I have and can I just update by installing
> over the top? It looks like there is a WAIK 3.0 now
>
>
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=696dd665-9f7
> 6-4177-a811-39c26d3b3b34&displaylang=en
>
>
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
>
>
> Curt Finley
>
>
>
> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 1:37 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging
>
>
>
> So, Microsoft doesn't just have a "Windows Deployment Services Server",
> they have an entire deployment stack. From the most basic elements, to
> the most complex, it goes like this (along with current versions):
>
>
>
> Windows Pre-Execution Environment (WinPE) 3.0
>
> Windows Automated Installation Kit (WAIK) 2.0
>
> Windows Deployment Services Server (WDS) 2008 R2
>
> Microsoft Deployment Toolkit (MDT) 2010 Update 1
>
> (optional) System Center Configuration Manager (SCCM)
> 2007 R3
>
>
>
> MDT can interface with SCCM (it simplifies some basic deployment steps),
> but SCCM is not required for MDT to be installed standalone.
>
>
>
> Nothing that MDT or that WDS or that WAIK does is magic. All of it can
> be duplicated by scripting or by using third-party tools. They are there
> to make life easier.
>
>
>
> WinPE has some magic in it, though. J WinPE plus WAIK are the minimum of
> what you need to do deployment work (with a reasonable amount of effort
> as opposed to LOTS of effort). They include WinPE boot images, the
> ImageX and DISM tools, CD/DVD burning utilities, driver libraries, etc.
> etc.
>
>
>
> When you install the WDS server role, and WAIK is not installed on your
> server, a mini-version of WinPE+WAIK is installed as part of the role
> (basically, x86 and x64 boot images plus sysprep support).
>
>
>
> All that just to say, and to be clear: if you have WinPE plus WAIK, you
> can do anything you want to do to an image. Inject, delete, create,
> modify, whole disk, single partition, multiple partition, GPT,
> Fat32/NTFS/utility, etc. etc. etc.
>
>
>
> You can certainly do what you want. You just have to learn the tools.
> They are VERY different from those that came before.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
>
> From: Jonathan [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:43 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Windows 7 Imaging
>
>
>
> This is pertinent to a conversation I just had with my counterpart @
> work on the west coast. They have to image 5,500 machines for a client
> and he mentioned that WDS would only image at the partition level. They
> are looking for whole disk imaging. Will WDS do that or should he be
> looking at something else?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Tom Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
>
>
> We are working towards deploying Windows 7 (along with Office 2010) on
> current and future shipments of new laptops/PCs. We use syprep and
> Ghost for our XP image, and it works well.
>
>
>
> I'm looking for your suggestions/warnings/gotchas as to imaging for
> Windows 7. Favorite imaging tools, methods, etc? I don't do the
> imaging here, but my PC guy who does the images seems to be having a bit
> of a struggle with it compared to XP images, so I thought I'd as you
> experts.
>
>
>
> We already have a Dell Kace system management system here, and I'll be
> viewing a demo today for the imaging component (additional purchase).
> I'm open to anything that makes the process as painless as possible. If
> it matters we use Lenovo ThinkPads for our laptops and Dell Optiplex
> business PCs.
>
>
>
> Your comments are appreciated.
>
>
>
> Tom
>
>
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