While Ray is not on the team he might want to pass this tool along onthe
remote chance they are not aware of it
http://sourceforge.net/projects/smsclictr/

Our SCCM guys used it to remiediate a lot of things in the earlier days.

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Rod Trent <[email protected]> wrote:

> Is this a nice way of telling us to "be quiet now"?  :)
>
> Incidentally -- remote control in SMS (2003 and below) was phenomenal.
> Microsoft made the mistake in ConfigMgr 2007 to eliminate an integrated RC
> component and rely more on Windows RDP.  ConfigMgr 2012 brings back a full
> RC component.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ray [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 2:08 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: New to MS System Center, Where to start?
>
> Like I said, we had lots of various WMI issues, but didn't know it until
> rolling out SCCM.
>
> I'm no longer on that team. I didn't even know they were still having a
> problem and bringing in MS again. Other than remote control, which is
> mediocre at best, I don't use it for anything.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 10:55 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: New to MS System Center, Where to start?
>
> WMI is one of the key resources used just about everywhere within Windows.
> It may be "hidden" by lots of command line programs, but it's often the
> underlying technology they are using. Not always, but often.
>
> SCCM does use it heavily as well. In fact, current versions install a
> specific WMI provider that is used for querying and updating the SCCM DB.
> (I
> don't know what 2012 does - I haven't had time to do much with it besides
> read a couple of documents.)
>
> Microsoft does, of course, have some great SCCM people; and if you have
> premium support that's certainly the place to start. Both Avanade and
> Accenture have infrastructure groups that do nothing but System Center -
> and
> they have some FABULOUS people. And there are a fair number of independent
> SCCM consultants, including SCCM MVPs, that are pretty bright too. :-)
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael B. Smith
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ray [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 1:48 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: New to MS System Center, Where to start?
>
> Apparently everything in the MS world doesn't rely on WMI or we would've
> known we were going to have major issues.
>
> Yes, we looked at 3rd party resources. The project really wasn't mine, and
> now I have even less to do with it.
>
> I did hear, however, that they're bringing in another MS consultant via
> Premium Support.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rod Trent [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 10:35 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: New to MS System Center, Where to start?
>
> Everything in the Windows world relies on WMI...
>
> WMI can be finicky, but only when the repository becomes corrupted due to
> various means (like improper imaging).
>
> Have you consulted the 3rd party resources for SCCM?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ray [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 1:24 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: New to MS System Center, Where to start?
>
> I don't think 500 is too much for a single server. Of course the specs are
> important as well as the links.
>
> SCCM has been a bit of a disappointment for our agency of about 5,000
> workstations. We've had MS folks here multiple times trying to get it to
> work correctly. Some of it has been MS support not really knowing how some
> things were supposed to be set up (Site Codes for example), some of it has
> been our links, and some of it has been the lack of PC standards in our
> agency. SCCM seems to rely heavily on components like WMI that can be
> "finicky" with various permissions.
>
> That being said, YMMV.  If you've had better control of the PC's than we've
> had, you may not run into this kind of stuff.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 10:04 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: New to MS System Center, Where to start?
>
> Good question. Would I want to support every workstation in the district?
> (Aka, about 500 windows machines...) Or would that be overkill for a single
> server?
>
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rod Trent
> [mailto:[email protected]]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thu, 07 Jul 2011
> 10:01:28 -0700
> Subject: RE: New to MS System Center, Where to start?
>
>
> > :) Where to start...?
> >
> > How many clients will be supporting through ConfigMgr?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 12:50 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: New to MS System Center, Where to start?
> >
> > Hey everybody.
> >
> > I have a server which has been freed up from it's previous duty.
> > Trying to find something productive for it's use, I'm looking at the
> > possibility of running System Center on it.
> >
> > Now, I'm totally new to any of the System Center stuff, so I'm
> > ignorant of much of it's uses.
> >
> > We at this school district will be subscribing to the MS EES program
> > when it becomes available (October 1st). This program will allow all
> > of our computers to run the most updated versions of Windows and
> > Office, as well as provide the CALs for several programs we had not
> > had the resources to purchase before. In particular, we will now have
> > CALs for System Center Configuration Manager and System Center Client
> Management Suite.
> >
> > So, I'm diving in. I've just erased said spare server, installed
> > Win2k8R2SP1 (Say that 5 times fast) and I'm about to try to install
> > Configuration Manager 2007. Anything I should be aware of? Anything I
> should look out for?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> >
> > --Matt Ross
> > Ephrata School District
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