> GAH! > > So, pick a goal. Actually, pick 3 (not technologies, but goals).
Um... we already do some of these in different ways... (Opsview for network/server monitoring, WSUS for patch management, etc. Obviously the solutions available to me now _may_ be better at doing these things.) Okay, I'll choose two goals: Backups and Security. Our current backup solution could be greatly improved and we may be able to drop our current AV is Forefront can do it for "free". Off to more reading... after lunch! --Matt Ross Ephrata School District ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 11:56:25 -0700 Subject: Re: New to MS System Center, Where to start? > GAH! > > So, pick a goal. Actually, pick 3 (not technologies, but goals). Then > decide which one you want and start there. Depending on your skillset and > current environment, some of those may be easier to initially > implement. Some will certainly have more customer visibility but others may > be more beneficial to your overall infrastructure. > > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Matthew W. Ross > <mr...@ephrataschools.org>wrote: > > > > Is this a nice way of telling us to "be quiet now"? :) > > > > Oh, no... Just saying "I'm used to lots of email." > > > > I'm looking deeper into what we get with this new EES license: > > > > Win7Entperise upgrade > > Office Pro Plus 2010 and Office for the Mac 2011 > > Windows Server Standard CALs > > Right Management Services CALs > > Exchange Server Enterprise CALs > > Sharepoint Server Enterprise CALs > > Microsoft Lync Server Standard/Enterprise CALs > > System Center Client Management Suite* > > * (Which looks like Data Protection Manger, Operations Manager, and > > Service Manager) > > Forefront Protection Suite CALs > > and Forefront Unified Access Gateway CALs > > > > I'm just trying to digest what all of this is. It's a huge amount of > > information to absorb... to see what we actually get with this... what > > services these provide that we might want to utilize... what costs might > be > > involved to implement... > > > > So, my original thought was to jump in with both feet into SCCM... but I'm > > not so sure anymore. Much more reading/training may be required, and I > don't > > have a lot of time this summer with all my other duties before the start > of > > school. > > > > > > --Matt Ross > > Ephrata School District > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Rod Trent > > [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] > > Sent: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 > > 11:31:51 -0700 > > Subject: RE: New to MS System Center, Where to start? > > > > > > > Is this a nice way of telling us to "be quiet now"? :) > > > > > > Incidentally -- remote control in SMS (2003 and below) was phenomenal. > > > Microsoft made the mistake in ConfigMgr 2007 to eliminate an integrated > > RC > > > component and rely more on Windows RDP. ConfigMgr 2012 brings back a > > full > > > RC component. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net] > > > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 2:08 PM > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > > Subject: RE: New to MS System Center, Where to start? > > > > > > Like I said, we had lots of various WMI issues, but didn't know it until > > > rolling out SCCM. > > > > > > I'm no longer on that team. I didn't even know they were still having a > > > problem and bringing in MS again. Other than remote control, which is > > > mediocre at best, I don't use it for anything. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] > > > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 10:55 AM > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > > Subject: RE: New to MS System Center, Where to start? > > > > > > WMI is one of the key resources used just about everywhere within > > Windows. > > > It may be "hidden" by lots of command line programs, but it's often the > > > underlying technology they are using. Not always, but often. > > > > > > SCCM does use it heavily as well. In fact, current versions install a > > > specific WMI provider that is used for querying and updating the SCCM > DB. > > (I > > > don't know what 2012 does - I haven't had time to do much with it > besides > > > read a couple of documents.) > > > > > > Microsoft does, of course, have some great SCCM people; and if you have > > > premium support that's certainly the place to start. Both Avanade and > > > Accenture have infrastructure groups that do nothing but System Center - > > and > > > they have some FABULOUS people. And there are a fair number of > > independent > > > SCCM consultants, including SCCM MVPs, that are pretty bright too. :-) > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Michael B. Smith > > > Consultant and Exchange MVP > > > http://TheEssentialExchange.com > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net] > > > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 1:48 PM > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > > Subject: RE: New to MS System Center, Where to start? > > > > > > Apparently everything in the MS world doesn't rely on WMI or we would've > > > known we were going to have major issues. > > > > > > Yes, we looked at 3rd party resources. The project really wasn't mine, > > and > > > now I have even less to do with it. > > > > > > I did hear, however, that they're bringing in another MS consultant via > > > Premium Support. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] > > > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 10:35 AM > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > > Subject: RE: New to MS System Center, Where to start? > > > > > > Everything in the Windows world relies on WMI... > > > > > > WMI can be finicky, but only when the repository becomes corrupted due > to > > > various means (like improper imaging). > > > > > > Have you consulted the 3rd party resources for SCCM? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net] > > > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 1:24 PM > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > > Subject: RE: New to MS System Center, Where to start? > > > > > > I don't think 500 is too much for a single server. Of course the specs > > are > > > important as well as the links. > > > > > > SCCM has been a bit of a disappointment for our agency of about 5,000 > > > workstations. We've had MS folks here multiple times trying to get it to > > > work correctly. Some of it has been MS support not really knowing how > > some > > > things were supposed to be set up (Site Codes for example), some of it > > has > > > been our links, and some of it has been the lack of PC standards in our > > > agency. SCCM seems to rely heavily on components like WMI that can be > > > "finicky" with various permissions. > > > > > > That being said, YMMV. If you've had better control of the PC's than > > we've > > > had, you may not run into this kind of stuff. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] > > > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 10:04 AM > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > > Subject: RE: New to MS System Center, Where to start? > > > > > > Good question. Would I want to support every workstation in the > district? > > > (Aka, about 500 windows machines...) Or would that be overkill for a > > single > > > server? > > > > > > > > > --Matt Ross > > > Ephrata School District > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Rod Trent > > > [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > > [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] > > > Sent: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 > > > 10:01:28 -0700 > > > Subject: RE: New to MS System Center, Where to start? > > > > > > > > > > :) Where to start...? > > > > > > > > How many clients will be supporting through ConfigMgr? > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 12:50 PM > > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > > > Subject: New to MS System Center, Where to start? > > > > > > > > Hey everybody. > > > > > > > > I have a server which has been freed up from it's previous duty. > > > > Trying to find something productive for it's use, I'm looking at the > > > > possibility of running System Center on it. > > > > > > > > Now, I'm totally new to any of the System Center stuff, so I'm > > > > ignorant of much of it's uses. > > > > > > > > We at this school district will be subscribing to the MS EES program > > > > when it becomes available (October 1st). This program will allow all > > > > of our computers to run the most updated versions of Windows and > > > > Office, as well as provide the CALs for several programs we had not > > > > had the resources to purchase before. In particular, we will now have > > > > CALs for System Center Configuration Manager and System Center Client > > > Management Suite. > > > > > > > > So, I'm diving in. I've just erased said spare server, installed > > > > Win2k8R2SP1 (Say that 5 times fast) and I'm about to try to install > > > > Configuration Manager 2007. Anything I should be aware of? Anything I > > > should look out for? > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > > > > --Matt Ross > > > > Ephrata School District > > > > > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > > > > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > > > > > --- > > > > To manage subscriptions click here: > > > > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > > > > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > > > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > > > > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > > > > > --- > > > > To manage subscriptions click here: > > > > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > > > > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > > > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > > > > > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > > > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > > > --- > > > To manage subscriptions click here: > > > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > > > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > > > > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > > > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > > > --- > > > To manage subscriptions click here: > > > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > > > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > > > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > > > --- > > > To manage subscriptions click here: > > > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > > > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > > > > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > > > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > > > --- > > > To manage subscriptions click here: > > > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > > > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > > > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > > > --- > > > To manage subscriptions click here: > > > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > > > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > > > > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > > > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > > > --- > > > To manage subscriptions click here: > > > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > > > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > > > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > > > --- > > > To manage subscriptions click here: > > > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > > > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > --- > > To manage subscriptions click here: > > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
