Thanks Kevin

thats very helpful. 

Yes in display space you end up dealing at least with sRGB or DCI.

When going from LOG to LIN i have no idea what the primaries are - or even if 
these are known when using negs…?

I have a similar bunch of setups, similar to yours you have sent, from Alex Fry.

The only issue I can see is that in this technique the final colorspace node 
(taking you to CIE)  sets the primaries ( to whatever is in the list) and so 
you are effectivley defining it.
Although nonetheless a very cool way to visualise LUTs.

Here's my set up..

http://pastebin.com/V71Wpu37 <http://pastebin.com/V71Wpu37>

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> On 10 May 2016, at 10:18, Kevin Wheatley <kevin.wheat...@framestore.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> On 7 May 2016 at 20:28, Neil Scholes <n...@uvfilms.co.uk> wrote:
>> I have been using the OCIO SPI-VFX route, where you view through a film sRGB
>> display LUT. So in a sense the primaries are viewed as sRGB...  Or DCI is
>> the other option. And I can jump between DCI and sRGB on my monitor.. Eizo
>> CG245w.
> 
> when you view an image through a 3D LUT tagged with sRGB/709 or with
> 'P3', usually this is relating to the state of the output device you
> are using, it says nothing about the incoming data.
> 
> For instance, if you use the ARRI Lut generator to build you a LUT you
> use the colour space setting within the *conversion* tab as in
> "convert to", in all cases they assume Alexa wide gamut primaries as
> input and adjust the output to work with a display calibrated in the
> selected colour setting.
> 
> In the case of the SPI luts I'm not sure exactly what they assume, but
> the curving to me looks like a change of primaries somewhere in there,
> but you can visualise what they do using something like the below and
> viewing the results (try disable the gamma and colorspace nodes to
> visualise in 3D), with them turned on and viewing the rtside will show
> you something like a CIE 1931 plot (though the axis need flipping
> about) Obviously if you want exactly what the ocio config does you
> should feed that in.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> set cut_paste_input [stack 0]
> version 9.0 v8
> CMSTestPattern {
> inputs 0
> cube_size 33
> name CMSTestPattern2
> selected true
> xpos -2324
> ypos -126
> }
> set Nf18286f0 [stack 0]
> OCIOFileTransform {
> file spi_ocio_srgb_test.spi3d
> working_space linear
> name OCIOFileTransform1
> selected true
> xpos -2324
> ypos -54
> }
> Gamma {
> value 0.4545454545
> name Gamma2
> selected true
> xpos -2324
> ypos -28
> }
> Colorspace {
> colorspace_out CIE-Yxy
> name Colorspace1
> selected true
> xpos -2324
> ypos 10
> }
> PositionToPoints2 {
> display textured
> render_mode textured
> P_channel rgb
> name PositionToPoints3
> selected true
> xpos -2324
> ypos 36
> }
> push $Nf18286f0
> OCIOFileTransform {
> file colorworks_filmlg_to_p3.3dl
> working_space linear
> name OCIOFileTransform2
> selected true
> xpos -2208
> ypos -53
> }
> Gamma {
> value 0.3846153846
> name Gamma1
> selected true
> xpos -2208
> ypos -27
> }
> Colorspace {
> illuminant_in DCI-P3
> primary_in DCI-P3
> colorspace_out CIE-Yxy
> name Colorspace2
> selected true
> xpos -2208
> ypos 11
> }
> PositionToPoints2 {
> display textured
> render_mode textured
> P_channel rgb
> name PositionToPoints4
> selected true
> xpos -2208
> ypos 37
> }
> 
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