Ed Schofield wrote: > Last week's discussion on rand() and randn() seemed to indicate a > sentiment that they ought to take tuples for consistency with ones, > zeros, eye, identity, and empty -- that, although they are supposed > to be convenience functions, they are inconvenient precisely because > of their inconsistency with these other functions. This issue has > been raised many times over the past several months. > > Travis made a change in r2572 to allow tuples as arguments, then took > it out again a few hours later, apparently unsure about whether this > was a good idea. > > I'd like to call for a vote on what people would prefer, and then ask > Travis to make a final pronouncement before the feature freeze.
I would like to ask about the purpose of calling for a vote, here. What authority do you intend the result to have? If you are just asking for a straw poll of opinions from the list to inform Travis' decision, do you think that he hasn't read the previous discussions? Are previous non-participants being drawn out of the woodwork? Or do you intend the majority winner of the vote to force Travis' decision? In which case, who comprises the voting membership, and why? Voting is a notoriously bad way to make decisions in software development. Open source did not change that. It should be a very rare occurrence and happen in very specific circumstances. Two CFVs in as many days is entirely unreasonable. And when a vote *is* taken, it should be done with much more care than I think you are showing here (specifically, a CFV should not be making the case for only one of the choices). Karl Fogel's book _Producing Open Source Software_ thoroughly discusses these issues: http://producingoss.com/html-chunk/consensus-democracy.html#voting -- Robert Kern "I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth." -- Umberto Eco ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 _______________________________________________ Numpy-discussion mailing list Numpy-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/numpy-discussion
