Ed Schofield wrote: > On 09/07/2006, at 12:04 AM, Robert Kern wrote: > >> I would like to ask about the purpose of calling for a vote, here. >> What >> authority do you intend the result to have? If you are just asking >> for a straw >> poll of opinions from the list to inform Travis' decision, do you >> think that he >> hasn't read the previous discussions? Are previous non-participants >> being drawn >> out of the woodwork? ... > > No authority at all -- it's just a straw poll. My intention is > merely to ascertain whether there's indeed a groundswell of public > opinion for this change among NumPy's users, as is my suspicion. > > Previous non-participants are indeed coming out of the woodwork. > > The reason I've listed only one alternative to the status quo is that > this is a simple, concrete proposal that has bubbled up several times > from the discussion, which may have broad enough support to tip > Travis's decision. > > I know that you, Robert, disagree with the proposal and have put > forward an alternative. Fair enough, but let's now hear what others > have to say.
The problem I have is that the way this happened is ineffective at doing that honestly. Fogel's book has a good discussion about how these should be conducted. You can't just pick the options that are convenient for you. You can't argue for your favorite in the CFV. You should provide pointers to the previous discussions so that newcomers can understand what the arguments are. You should encourage people to come up with alternatives that might achieve consensus rather than just picking the ones on the ballot. Otherwise, the poll just serves as rhetorical ploy, not a way to ascertain people's opinions. -- Robert Kern "I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth." -- Umberto Eco ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 _______________________________________________ Numpy-discussion mailing list Numpy-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/numpy-discussion
