On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 5:54 PM Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benja...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 at 10:16, Ralf Gommers <ralf.gomm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 9, 2024 at 2:03 AM Oscar Benjamin <
> oscar.j.benja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 at 00:44, Charles R Harris <
> charlesr.har...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > About a month from now.
> >>
> >> What will happen about a month from now? It might seem obvious to you
> >> but I can interpret this in different ways.
> >>
> >> To be clear numpy 2.0 is expected to be released in full to the public
> >> in about one month's time from today?
> >
> > Let me give the optimistic and pessimistic timelines. Optimistic:
> >
> > - 2.0.0b1 later today
> > - 2.0.0rc1 (ABI stable) in 7-10 days
> > - 2.0.0 final release in 1 month
> >
> > Pessimistic:
> >
> > - 2.0.0b1 within a few days
> > - 2.0.0rc1 (ABI stable) in 2 weeks
> > - 2.0.0rc2 in 4 weeks
> > - 2.0.0rc3 in 6 weeks
> > - 2.0.0 final release in 8 weeks
>
> Thanks Ralf and Chuck. Sorry, I meant to reply to this earlier but got
> distracted with other things.
>
> We are now 16 days into the future so NumPy 2.0 would be 2 weeks time
> for the optimistic timescale.
>
> I assume that now the beta release is out the intention is no further
> breaking changes. Then if SymPy master is currently compatible with
> NumPy 2.0.0b1 a good time for a SymPy release with accumulated fixes
> is... ASAP!
>
> Presumably now that NumPy 2.0 is branched downstream projects should
> test in CI against the prereleases (pip install --pre numpy) rather
> than the nightly wheels. (SymPy does not usually test against the
> nightly wheels. I added that for NumPy 2.0 but maybe we should keep
> it...)
>
>
The rc1 release is now waiting on pybind11, so there is an (uncertain)
delay.

Chuck
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