On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 1:20 AM Charles R Harris <charlesr.har...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 5:54 PM Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benja...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 at 10:16, Ralf Gommers <ralf.gomm...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > On Sat, Mar 9, 2024 at 2:03 AM Oscar Benjamin < >> oscar.j.benja...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 at 00:44, Charles R Harris < >> charlesr.har...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > About a month from now. >> >> >> >> What will happen about a month from now? It might seem obvious to you >> >> but I can interpret this in different ways. >> >> >> >> To be clear numpy 2.0 is expected to be released in full to the public >> >> in about one month's time from today? >> > >> > Let me give the optimistic and pessimistic timelines. Optimistic: >> > >> > - 2.0.0b1 later today >> > - 2.0.0rc1 (ABI stable) in 7-10 days >> > - 2.0.0 final release in 1 month >> > >> > Pessimistic: >> > >> > - 2.0.0b1 within a few days >> > - 2.0.0rc1 (ABI stable) in 2 weeks >> > - 2.0.0rc2 in 4 weeks >> > - 2.0.0rc3 in 6 weeks >> > - 2.0.0 final release in 8 weeks >> >> Thanks Ralf and Chuck. Sorry, I meant to reply to this earlier but got >> distracted with other things. >> >> We are now 16 days into the future so NumPy 2.0 would be 2 weeks time >> for the optimistic timescale. >> >> I assume that now the beta release is out the intention is no further >> breaking changes. Then if SymPy master is currently compatible with >> NumPy 2.0.0b1 a good time for a SymPy release with accumulated fixes >> is... ASAP! >> >> Presumably now that NumPy 2.0 is branched downstream projects should >> test in CI against the prereleases (pip install --pre numpy) rather >> than the nightly wheels. (SymPy does not usually test against the >> nightly wheels. I added that for NumPy 2.0 but maybe we should keep >> it...) >> >> > The rc1 release is now waiting on pybind11, so there is an (uncertain) > delay. > Pybind11 2.12.0 was released earlier today, so everything is unblocked. We should see a numpy 2.0.0rc1 very soon - https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/26149 is the one PR we still need I believe. Cheers, Ralf
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