On Fr, 2014-08-15 at 16:42 +0200, Eelco Hoogendoorn wrote:
> Agreed; this addition occurred to me as well. Note that the
> implemenatation should be straightforward: just allocate an enlarged
> array, use some striding logic to construct the relevant view, and let
> einsums internals act on the view. hopefully, you wont even have to
> touch the guts of einsum at the C level, because id say that isn't for
> the faint of heart...
> 

I am not sure if einsum isn't pure C :). But even if, it should be doing
something identical already for duplicate indices on the inputs...

- Sebastian

> 
> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Sebastian Berg
> <sebast...@sipsolutions.net> wrote:
>         On Do, 2014-08-14 at 12:42 -0700, Stephan Hoyer wrote:
>         > I think this would be very nice addition.
>         >
>         >
>         > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Benjamin Root
>         <ben.r...@ou.edu>
>         > wrote:
>         >         You had me at Kronecker delta... :-)  +1
>         >
>         
>         
>         Sounds good to me. I don't see a reason for not relaxing the
>         restriction, unless there is some technical issue, but I doubt
>         that.
>         
>         - Sebastian
>         
>         >
>         >
>         >         On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Pierre-Andre Noel
>         >         <noel.pierre.an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>         >                 (I created issue 4965 earlier today on this
>         topic, and
>         >                 I have been
>         >                 advised to email to this mailing list to
>         discuss
>         >                 whether it is a good
>         >                 idea or not. I include my original post
>         as-is,
>         >                 followed by additional
>         >                 comments.)
>         >
>         >                 I think that the following new feature would
>         make
>         >                 `numpy.einsum` even
>         >                 more powerful/useful/awesome than it already
>         is.
>         >                 Moreover, the change
>         >                 should not interfere with existing code, it
>         would
>         >                 preserve the
>         >                 "minimalistic" spirit of `numpy.einsum`, and
>         the new
>         >                 functionality would
>         >                 integrate in a seamless/intuitive manner for
>         the
>         >                 users.
>         >
>         >                 In short, the new feature would allow for
>         repeated
>         >                 subscripts to appear
>         >                 in the "output" part of the `subscripts`
>         parameter
>         >                 (i.e., on the
>         >                 right-hand side of `->`). The corresponding
>         dimensions
>         >                 in the resulting
>         >                 `ndarray` would only be filled along their
>         diagonal,
>         >                 leaving the off
>         >                 diagonal entries to the default value for
>         this `dtype`
>         >                 (typically zero).
>         >                 Note that the current behavior is to raise
>         an
>         >                 exception when repeated
>         >                 output subscripts are being used.
>         >
>         >                 This is simplest to describe with an example
>         involving
>         >                 the dual behavior
>         >                 of `numpy.diag`.
>         >
>         >                 ```python
>         >                 # Extracting the diagonal of a 2-D array.
>         >                 A = arange(16).reshape(4,4)
>         >                 print(diag(A)) # Output: [ 0 5 10 15 ]
>         >                 print(einsum('ii->i', A)) # Same as previous
>         line
>         >                 (current behavior).
>         >
>         >                 # Constructing a diagonal 2-D array.
>         >                 v = arange(4)
>         >                 print(diag(v)) # Output: [[0 0 0 0] [0 1 0
>         0] [0 0 2
>         >                 0] [0 0 0 3]]
>         >                 print(einsum('i->ii', v)) # New behavior
>         would be same
>         >                 as previous line.
>         >                 # The current behavior of the previous line
>         is to
>         >                 raise an exception.
>         >                 ```
>         >
>         >                 By opposition to `numpy.diag`, the approach
>         >                 generalizes to higher
>         >                 dimensions: `einsum('iii->i', A)` extracts
>         the
>         >                 diagonal of a 3-D array,
>         >                 and `einsum('i->iii', v)` would build a
>         diagonal 3-D
>         >                 array.
>         >
>         >                 The proposed behavior really starts to shine
>         in more
>         >                 intricate cases.
>         >
>         >                 ```python
>         >                 # Dummy values, these should be
>         probabilities to make
>         >                 sense below.
>         >                 P_w_ab = arange(24).reshape(3,2,4)
>         >                 P_y_wxab = arange(144).reshape(3,3,2,2,4)
>         >
>         >                 # With the proposed behavior, the following
>         two lines
>         >                 should be equivalent.
>         >                 P_xyz_ab = einsum('wab,xa,ywxab,zy->xyzab',
>         P_w_ab,
>         >                 eye(2), P_y_wxab,
>         >                 eye(3))
>         >                 also_P_xyz_ab = einsum('wab,ywaab->ayyab',
>         P_w_ab,
>         >                 P_y_wxab)
>         >                 ```
>         >
>         >                 If this is not convincing enough, replace
>         `eye(2)` by
>         >                 `eye(P_w_ab.shape[1])` and replace `eye(3)`
>         by
>         >                 `eye(P_y_wxab.shape[0])`,
>         >                 then imagine more dimensions and repeated
>         indices...
>         >                 The new notation
>         >                 would allow for crisper codes and reduce the
>         >                 opportunities for dumb
>         >                 mistakes.
>         >
>         >                 For those who wonder, the above computation
>         amounts to
>         >                 $P(X=x,Y=y,Z=z|A=a,B=b) = \sum_w P(W=w|
>         A=a,B=b) P(X=x|
>         >                 A=a)
>         >                 P(Y=y|W=w,X=x,A=a,B=b) P(Z=z|Y=y)$ with
>         $P(X=x|A=a)=
>         >                 \delta_{xa}$ and
>         >                 $P(Z=z|Y=y)=\delta_{zy}$ (using LaTeX
>         notation, and
>         >                 $\delta_{ij}$ is
>         >                 [Kronecker's
>         >
>          delta](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kronecker_delta)).
>         >
>         >                 (End of original post.)
>         >
>         >                 I have been told by @jaimefrio that "The
>         best way of
>         >                 getting a new
>         >                 feature into numpy is putting it in
>         yourself." Hence,
>         >                 if discussions
>         >                 here do reveal that this is a good idea,
>         then I may
>         >                 give a try at coding
>         >                 it myself. However, I currently know nothing
>         of the
>         >                 inner workings of
>         >                 numpy/ndarray/einsum, and I have higher
>         priorities
>         >                 right now. This means
>         >                 that it could take a long while before I
>         contribute
>         >                 any code, if I ever
>         >                 do. Hence, if anyone feels like doing it,
>         feel free to
>         >                 do so!
>         >
>         >                 Also, I am aware that storing a lot of zeros
>         in an
>         >                 `ndarray` may not, a
>         >                 priori, be a desirable avenue. However,
>         there are
>         >                 times where you have
>         >                 to do it: think of `numpy.eye` as an
>         example. In my
>         >                 case of application,
>         >                 I use such diagonal structures in the
>         initialization
>         >                 of an `ndarray`
>         >                 which is later updated through an iterative
>         process.
>         >                 After these
>         >                 iterations, most of the zeros will be gone.
>         Do other
>         >                 people see a use
>         >                 for such capabilities?
>         >
>         >                 Thank you for your time and have a nice day.
>         >
>         >                 Sincerely,
>         >
>         >                 Pierre-André Noël
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