That analogy fails because it suggests a private conversation. This list is 
extremely public.
For example, I am just a user, and I am on it.  I can tell you that as a 
long-time numpy user
my reaction to the proposal to change indexing semantics was (i) OMG YMBFKM and 
then
(ii) take a breath; this too will fade away.  It is very reasonable to worry 
that some users
will start at the same place but them move in a different direction, and that 
worry should
affect how such proposals are floated and discussed.  I am personally grateful 
that the
idea's reception has been so chilly; it's very reassuring.

fwiw,
Alan


On 4/7/2015 9:06 PM, Nathaniel Smith wrote:
> If a grad student or junior colleague comes to you with an
> idea where you see some potentially critical flaw, do you
> yell THAT WILL NEVER WORK and kick them out of your
> office? Or, do you maybe ask a few leading questions and
> see where they go?

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