Hmmm.. How about this... The photographer who take a photo has the copyright over the photo not the owner of the picture motive, you, me or any other photo object. So caching is nothing but taking a picture using another sort of camera called robot :-) Nothing more really. If a browser maker decides to show an HTML tag lets say <H1> in 300 pixels will that be a copyright or trademark violation then?
What one can do is to prevent one to be photographed or stop the robots visit one's website :-) On 3/30/06, Insurance Squared Inc. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FWIW, I believe all of what's been stated is the case - and I'd also > assume that since Google/MSN/Yahoo are all doing this that it's been > tested and OK. > > However I know many people complain about the cache. Some people see it > as a copyright violation - technically correct or not, the cache does > basically duplicate their site and make it available online. And I've > never seen how to argue against that other than 'legally it's not'. IMO > it's cutting it pretty close. > > The other issue some have with displaying cache is that it allows people > to pull down websites without ever visiting the website in questions. > If I put serious effort into blocking bots and scrapers for example, but > let the SE's in so I can get indexed, then the bots and scrapers can > completely bypass my efforts, visit the SE and pull down the cached > pages there. They can then do nasty stuff with my content, like copy it > on their site for their own purposes. Not good, and that's the reason > why I don't show the cache on my SE. > > g. > > > Dan Morrill wrote: > > >If I remember it correctly, google as been sued and won a number of times on > >this issue, you can cache, you can search others web sites, grocklaw has the > >data on this one, but I know you can search, you can cache under fair use, > >and the idea of public access, as long as you are not cracking passwords, > >and honor robots.txt and they post it on the web, it is considered public in > >that regard. > > > >I am not a lawyer, check grocklaw. > > > >r/d > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: TDLN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 3:34 AM > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: Legal issues > > > >Google's and Yahoo's Terms of Service provide interesting reading regarding > >such legal issues. > > > >http://www.google.com/terms_of_service.html > >http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > >Rgrds, Thomas > > > >On 3/30/06, gekkokid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>Shouldn't be a problem if your honouring the robots.txt > >> > >>Legal issues could be Stealing Copyrighted Material? thats if your > >>reproducing it but if your analysing the content and links and keeping to > >>the robots.txt rules I doubt your have a problem unless its crawling every > >>10 minutes, > >> > >>wouldn't grabbing the RSS feed be better? > >> > >>would http://diggdot.us be a good example of what your trying to do? or > >>have > >>i got the wrong idea entirely? > >> > >>Any one else have any thoughts? > >> > >>_gk > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Berlin Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: <[email protected]> > >>Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 8:13 AM > >>Subject: Legal issues > >> > >> > >>What are say the legal issues of crawling a site like reddit, digg or > >>slashdot. Assuming that you are just collecting links that users post > >>through that service and then you are regathering those links. I > >>can't see an issue there. > >> > >>The other extreme would be crawling google and requerying or something > >>along those lines. > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0944&bid$1720&dat1642 _______________________________________________ Nutch-general mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nutch-general
