On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Ivan Pepelnjak <[email protected]>wrote:

> Oh, did you have to open that can of worms ;)
>
> Network state needs to be migrated only if the hypervisor (or a kernel
> plug-in) provides the service (example: VMware vShield App/Zones, Juniper
> VGW, Xen OpenFlow-based filters). If you use physical or virtual appliances
> connected to a virtual L2 or L3 segment, then there's no need to move the
> state, as the appliance (where the state is) hasn't moved.
>
> Interestingly, it's quite easy to move the session state(s) between
> hypervisors if they use OpenFlow like Open vSwitch (read the flows from the
> first hypervisor, copy them to the second hypervisor).
>
> Ivan


It's easy to move session state on the nodes that participate in the
overlay network  (ie. NVEs, kernel module plugins, etc); however
communicating with external elements that are part of the service would
need to occur. An example would be firewalls or NAT instances that reside
outside the NVE space. Orchestration would help to localize traffic or
provide the necessary network state changes.

Truman






> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> > Melinda Shore
> > Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 11:58 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [nvo3] server2nve signaling: VM migration
> >
> > On 7/20/12 10:48 PM, Ivan Pepelnjak wrote:
> > > [M1b] The orchestration system *is not *involved in VM memory move.
> > > That would place unnecessary burden on the orchestration system and
> > > increase the latency/time-to-move.
> >
> > It is not clear to me that the amount of latency introduced would
> actually
> > be a burden given the existing time-to-move, but I think it's worth
> > considering how any associated network state (middleboxes, primarily -
> > i.e. firewalls) would be migrated in parallel with the VM, and which
> > network elements would need to be involved.
> >
> > Melinda
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