Thanks David for the information. Then standardizing three dataplane
options makes me dissappointed.

Regards
Lizhong
On Jul 28, 2013 4:41 PM, "Black, David" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Lizhong,****
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> We can certainly talk about what the WG will or won’t standardize, but****
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> (IMHO), it’s necessary to pay attention to what’s in use – this is a****
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> specific case of looking at “running code” in addition to “rough
> consensus”.****
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> All three of those encapsulations are deployed and in use, today.****
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> Thanks,
> --David****
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> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf
> Of *Lizhong Jin
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 25, 2013 11:43 AM
> *To:* Thomas Narten
> *Cc:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [nvo3] Comment of draft-narten-nvo3-arch-00****
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> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 12:52 AM, Thomas Narten <[email protected]> wrote:
> ****
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> Hi Lizhong.****
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>
> > After reading this draft, I find it still combines many possible options
> > (e.g, dataplane). Hope to see a draft with much more clear opinion in
> next
> > version.****
>
> Not sure what you mean here when you say "combines many possible
> options (e.g., dataplane)."****
>
> [Lizhong] In section 10, I see at least three dataplane ecapsulation
> approach (vxlan, nvgre, mpls over gre). I hope the WG will not standardize
> so many kinds of encapsulations, otherwise it would be a nightmare for
> vendors. The arch document should weight among the candidates, and gives
> out the standardization direction, or at least should point out the reason
> why we need three encapsulations.****
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> From the market point, I haven't heard of any potential NIC supporting
> MPLS over GRE. Anyone heard of that?****
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> Regards****
>
> Lizhong****
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>
> One thing that became apparently in writing this document is that the
> WG hasn't actually (on the record) decided number of things. To me,
> some of the decisions are obvious (in the sense that they make sense
> to me and others I've talked to), but that is not the same as the WG
> actually weighing in making a choice.
>
> One of the key differences between the architecture document and the
> framework document is that the framework is a bit more open ended in
> terms of possible approaches, whereas the architecture will reflect
> the architectural choices the WG has made for NVO3.
>
> So, an important goal in putting together this strawman is to get
> feedback and see where folk seem to say "yes", and where they say
> "actually, we should do something different..."
>
> I'll respond to your specific questions in separate threads, so that
> it's a bit easier to track/follow the issues.
>
> Thomas****
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