Hi Benson.

Thanks for the updated charter. Here are some possible wording
clarifications. I do not believe the change the charter in a material
way (and are not intended to). But they may make aspects of it a bit
clearer.

> http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/wg/nvo3/charter-ietf-nvo3-01-rev-20140901.txt
> 
> The purpose of the NVO3 WG is to develop a set of protocols and/or protocol
> extensions that enable network virtualization within a data center (DC)
> environment using an IP-based overlay approach. An NVO3 solution provides 
> layer
> 2 and/or layer 3 services for virtual networks enabling multi-tenancy, 
> workload
> mobility, optimization, management, and security, addressing the issues
> described in the problem statement and consistent with the framework 
> previously
> produced by the NVO3 WG.

better:

I suggest removing " optimization, management, and security" because
they are not things that are "enabled" by NVO3 per se. At least not
without more words explaining what is meant. If I were an IESG member,
I'd ask "what do those words mean?". I think all these things are
covered in the problem statement/framework anyway, and folk with
questions should be pointed there.

> The NVO3 WG will develop solutions for network virtualization based on the
> following architectural tenets:
>  - Support for an IP-based underlay data plane
>  - A logically centralized authority for network virtualization
> Network virtualization approaches that do not adhere to these tenets are
> explicitly outside of the scope of the NVO3 WG.

The above (mentioning logically centralized) I think continues to be
confusing because it could use more context. How about:

The NVO3 WG will develop solutions for network virtualization based on the
following architectural tenets:
  - Support for an IP-based underlay data plane
  - A Network Virtualization Edge (NVE) that sits at the edge of an
    underlay network and provides L2 and/or L3 network virtualization
    functions to Tenant Systems
  - A logically centralized Network Virtualization Authority (NVA)
    that NVEs interact with to obtain the information necessary to
    provide a virtualized service.
Network virtualization approaches that do not adhere to these tenets are
explicitly outside of the scope of the NVO3 WG.

> In pursuit of the solutions described above, the NVO3 WG will document an
> architecture for network virtualization within a data center environment.
> 
> The NVO3 WG may produce requirements for a network virtualization control
> plane, and will select, extend, and/or develop one or more control plane
> protocols to support the architecture. Such protocols are expected to fulfill
> the communication requirements between an End Device and Network 
> Virtualization
> Edge (NVE), and between an NVE and the Network Virtualization Authority (NVA).
> The internal mechanisms and protocols of a logically centralized NVA are
> explicitly out of scope of the NVO3 WG.  Architectural issues raised by
> coexistence of multiple logically centralized control planes in the same data
> center may be considered by the WG. Inter-DC mechanisms are not in scope of
> the NVO3 WG at this time.

Above can be shortened or redone based on previous suggestion. Also,
actually think the use of "end device" above is not sufficient/precise
enough, because we are NOT talking about a generic "end device", but
the split-NVE case in particular. Better to just say that. (And note
that the WG document that covers this case is
draft-ietf-nvo3-hpvr2nve-cp-req, which is called "Hypervisor to NVE
Control Plane Requirements".)

E.g., something like:

The NVO3 WG may produce requirements for a network virtualization
control plane, and will select, extend, and/or develop one or more
control plane protocols to support the architecture. Such protocols
are expected to fulfill the following communication requirements:
 - for a "split-NVE", where the NVE functions are split between an end
   device and an adjacent switch,
 - between an NVE and an NVA.
The internal mechanisms and protocols of a logically centralized NVA
are explicitly out of scope of the NVO3 WG.  Architectural issues raised by
coexistence of multiple logically centralized control planes in the
same data center may be considered by the WG. Inter-DC mechanisms are
not in scope of the NVO3 WG at this time.

> 
> The NVO3 WG may produce requirements for network virtualization data planes
> based on encapsulation of virtual network traffic over an IP-based underlay
> data plane. Such requirements should consider OAM and security. Based on these
> requirements the WG will select, extend, and/or develop one or more data plane
> encapsulation format(s).
> 
> Additionally, the WG may document common use-cases for NVO3 solutions.
> 
> The working group may choose to adopt a protocol or data encapsulation that 
> was
> previously worked on outside the IETF as the basis for the WG's work.  If the
> NVO3 WG anticipates the adoption of the technologies of another SDO as part of
> the selected protocols or data encapsulation, the NVO3 WG will first liaise
> with that SDO.
> 
> BGP-based solutions to network virtualization within a data center environment
> will be developed in the BGP-Enabled Services (BESS) WG.
> 
> MILESTONES
> 
> Done - Problem Statement submitted for IESG review
> Done - Framework document submitted for IESG review
> TBD - Architecture submitted for IESG review
> TBD - End Device to NVE Control Plane Protocol Adopted by WG

Better: Control Plane for Split-NVE case Adopted

> TBD - NVE to NVA Control Plane Protocol Adopted by WG
> TBD - NVE Data Plane Protocol Adopted by WG
> TBD - Data Plane Requirements submitted for IESG review
> TBD - Control Plane Requirements submitted for IESG review
> TBD - OAM Requirements submitted for IESG review
> TBD - Security Requirements submitted for IESG review
> TBD - Use Cases submitted for IESG review
> TBD - End Device to NVE Control Plane Protocol Submitted for IESG review
> TBD - NVA to NVA Control Plane Protocol Submitted for IESG review
> TBD - NVE Data Plane Protocol Submitted for IESG review
> TBD - Recharter or close WG

Thanks!

Thomas

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