David,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Black, David [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 2:52 PM
> To: Yakov Rekhter
> Cc: Benson Schliesser; [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [nvo3] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-nvo3-vm-mobility-issues
> 
> > > (3) Why are the security considerations "TBD"?  Do the authors
> > > really think that's acceptable?
> >
> > The authors hope that once the document is accepted as an NVO3 WG
> > document, this section will be completed based on the feedback we'll
> > receive from the NVO3 WG.
> 
> Then the authors are confused, because that draft already is an NVO3 WG
> document, and hence has been sent to WG Last Call, even though it's
> incomplete. 

Sorry, my mistake.

> Perhaps the authors could complete the draft and we could
> consider trying again?
> 
> Leaving security considerations as "an exercise to the reader" has a
> rather poor track record in the IETF.

Agreed. With this in mind is there anything specific you would suggest to
put in the Security Considerations section ?

Yakov.

> 
> Thanks,
> --David
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Yakov Rekhter [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:03 AM
> > To: Black, David
> > Cc: Benson Schliesser; [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [nvo3] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-nvo3-vm-mobility-issues
> >
> > David,
> >
> > > Three quick questions:
> > >
> > > (1) Why is this draft intended as standards track?  What protocol or
> > standard
> > > does it specify?
> > >   Both the problem statement and framework drafts are Informational.
> >
> > Good point. The draft should be progressed as Informational.
> >
> > > (2) What is the nature of the use of RFC 2119 terms (e.g., "MUST")
> > > in this document?
> >
> > To answer this question let's look at few examples of the use of
> > RFC2119 terms in the document:
> >
> > From 3.1:
> >
> >    This document assumes that within a given non-trivial L2 physical
> >    domain traffic from/to VMs that are in that domain, and belong to
> the
> >    same L2-based CUG MUST have the same VLAN-ID.
> >
> > In the above "MUST" indicates that in the context of this document the
> > assumption about VLAN-ID can not be violated.
> >
> > From 3.5:
> >
> >                                        In other words, the policies
> that
> >    control connectivity between a given VM and its peers MUST NOT
> change
> >    as the VM moves from one L2 physical domain to another.
> >
> >    ....
> >
> >                                                             Moreover,
> >    policies, if any, within the L2 physical domain that contain a given
> >    VM MUST NOT preclude realization of the policies that control
> >    connectivity between this VM and its peers.
> >
> > In the above "MUST" and "MUST NOT" indicates that in the context of
> > this document any policies within the L2 physical domain can not
> > interfere with the policies that control connectivity between and
> > given VM and its peers.
> >
> > >
> > > (3) Why are the security considerations "TBD"?  Do the authors
> > > really think that's acceptable?
> >
> > The authors hope that once the document is accepted as an NVO3 WG
> > document, this section will be completed based on the feedback we'll
> > receive from the NVO3 WG.
> >
> > > Also, a 1-week WG LC time period is really short - that will not
> > > permit me to do a thorough technical review of this draft.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > --David
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: nvo3 [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Benson
> > > > Schliesser
> > > > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 5:42 PM
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: [nvo3] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-nvo3-vm-mobility-issues
> > > >
> > > > Dear NVO3 Contributors -
> > > >
> > > > This message is to initiate a Working Group Last Call for Comments
> > > > on
> > draft
> > -
> > > > ietf-nvo3-vm-mobility-issues. The chairs believe there is
> > > > consensus to
> > subm
> > it
> > > > this draft to the IESG for publication. Please review it and
> > > > provide
> > feedba
> > ck
> > > > on the mailing list by 19-Sep-2014.
> > > >
> > > > As a reminder, this is not an opportunity to vote. Please do not
> > > > post
> > messa
> > ges
> > > > that simply indicate support. Rather, substantial comments and
> > > > feedback is encouraged.
> > > >
> > > > For your convenient reference, the latest version of the draft can
> > > > be
> > found
> >  at
> > > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-nvo3-vm-mobility-issues-03.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > -Benson & Matthew
> > > >
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