David,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Black, David [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 5:24 PM
> To: Yakov Rekhter
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [nvo3] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-nvo3-vm-mobility-issues
> 
> > > Ok, this seems fine for stating requirements.  When changing the
> > > document to Informational, I suggest adding a sentence or two to
> > > Section 1 to expand on its title - in essence these keywords are
> > > being used to state protocol design requirements, not protocol
> > > implementation/behavior requirements.
> >
> > Would you please propose "a sentence or two" to add to Section 1 ?
> 
> After the existing text:
> 
> This informational document uses these keywords to express requirements
> for protocol design in contrast to the more common use of these keywords
> in standards track documents to express requirements for protocol
> implementation, deployment and/or usage.

Thanks ! I'll add this to the revised draft.

Yakov.

> 
> Thanks,
> --David
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Yakov Rekhter [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 5:12 PM
> > To: Black, David
> > Cc: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: [nvo3] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-nvo3-vm-mobility-issues
> >
> > David,
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Black, David [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 4:25 PM
> > > To: Yakov Rekhter
> > > Cc: [email protected]
> > > Subject: RE: [nvo3] WG Last Call on
> > > draft-ietf-nvo3-vm-mobility-issues
> > >
> > > Yaakov,
> > >
> > > On 2119 keywords.
> > >
> > > > From 3.1:
> > > >
> > > >    This document assumes that within a given non-trivial L2
> physical
> > > >    domain traffic from/to VMs that are in that domain, and belong
> > > > to
> > > the
> > > >    same L2-based CUG MUST have the same VLAN-ID.
> > > >
> > > > In the above "MUST" indicates that in the context of this document
> > > > the assumption about VLAN-ID can not be violated.
> > >
> > > Lower case "must" is fine for stating an assumption, and I would
> > > suggest doing so.
> >
> > Ok.
> >
> > >
> > > > From 3.5:
> > > >
> > > >                                        In other words, the
> > > > policies
> > > that
> > > >    control connectivity between a given VM and its peers MUST NOT
> > > change
> > > >    as the VM moves from one L2 physical domain to another.
> > > >
> > > >    ....
> > > >
> > > >
> Moreover,
> > > >    policies, if any, within the L2 physical domain that contain a
> given
> > > >    VM MUST NOT preclude realization of the policies that control
> > > >    connectivity between this VM and its peers.
> > > >
> > > > In the above "MUST" and "MUST NOT" indicates that in the context
> > > > of this document any policies within the L2 physical domain can
> > > > not interfere with the policies that control connectivity between
> > > > and given VM and its peers.
> > >
> > > Ok, this seems fine for stating requirements.  When changing the
> > > document to Informational, I suggest adding a sentence or two to
> > > Section 1 to expand on its title - in essence these keywords are
> > > being used to state protocol design requirements, not protocol
> > > implementation/behavior requirements.
> >
> > Would you please propose "a sentence or two" to add to Section 1 ?
> >
> > Yakov.
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > --David
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Yakov Rekhter [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:03 AM
> > > > To: Black, David
> > > > Cc: Benson Schliesser; [email protected]
> > > > Subject: Re: [nvo3] WG Last Call on
> > > > draft-ietf-nvo3-vm-mobility-issues
> > > >
> > > > David,
> > > >
> > > > > Three quick questions:
> > > > >
> > > > > (1) Why is this draft intended as standards track?  What
> > > > > protocol or
> > > > standard
> > > > > does it specify?
> > > > >       Both the problem statement and framework drafts are
> Informational.
> > > >
> > > > Good point. The draft should be progressed as Informational.
> > > >
> > > > > (2) What is the nature of the use of RFC 2119 terms (e.g.,
> > > > > "MUST") in this document?
> > > >
> > > > To answer this question let's look at few examples of the use of
> > > > RFC2119 terms in the document:
> > > >
> > > > From 3.1:
> > > >
> > > >    This document assumes that within a given non-trivial L2
> physical
> > > >    domain traffic from/to VMs that are in that domain, and belong
> > > > to
> > > the
> > > >    same L2-based CUG MUST have the same VLAN-ID.
> > > >
> > > > In the above "MUST" indicates that in the context of this document
> > > > the assumption about VLAN-ID can not be violated.
> > > >
> > > > From 3.5:
> > > >
> > > >                                        In other words, the
> > > > policies
> > > that
> > > >    control connectivity between a given VM and its peers MUST NOT
> > > change
> > > >    as the VM moves from one L2 physical domain to another.
> > > >
> > > >    ....
> > > >
> > > >
> Moreover,
> > > >    policies, if any, within the L2 physical domain that contain a
> given
> > > >    VM MUST NOT preclude realization of the policies that control
> > > >    connectivity between this VM and its peers.
> > > >
> > > > In the above "MUST" and "MUST NOT" indicates that in the context
> > > > of this document any policies within the L2 physical domain can
> > > > not interfere with the policies that control connectivity between
> > > > and given VM and its peers.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > (3) Why are the security considerations "TBD"?  Do the authors
> > > > > really think that's acceptable?
> > > >
> > > > The authors hope that once the document is accepted as an NVO3 WG
> > > > document, this section will be completed based on the feedback
> > > > we'll receive from the NVO3 WG.
> > > >
> > > > > Also, a 1-week WG LC time period is really short - that will not
> > > > > permit me to do a thorough technical review of this draft.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > --David
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: nvo3 [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Benson
> > > > > > Schliesser
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 5:42 PM
> > > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > > Subject: [nvo3] WG Last Call on
> > > > > > draft-ietf-nvo3-vm-mobility-issues
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dear NVO3 Contributors -
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This message is to initiate a Working Group Last Call for
> > > > > > Comments on
> > > > draft
> > > > -
> > > > > > ietf-nvo3-vm-mobility-issues. The chairs believe there is
> > > > > > consensus to
> > > > subm
> > > > it
> > > > > > this draft to the IESG for publication. Please review it and
> > > > > > provide
> > > > feedba
> > > > ck
> > > > > > on the mailing list by 19-Sep-2014.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As a reminder, this is not an opportunity to vote. Please do
> > > > > > not post
> > > > messa
> > > > ges
> > > > > > that simply indicate support. Rather, substantial comments and
> > > > > > feedback is encouraged.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For your convenient reference, the latest version of the draft
> > > > > > can be
> > > > found
> > > >  at
> > > > > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-nvo3-vm-mobility-issues-
> 03.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > -Benson & Matthew
> > > > > >
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