I didn't want to get involved in this really, but after seeing Will's tweet 
I can't resist.

I only have one question:
Where were all you mid-level developers wanting around 30k for a rails dev 
position in Manchester about 6 months ago!?
I offered a position, and mentioned it to the group, and couldn't get a 
bite!

Anyways, I think Will is in around the correct level, at least as an 
employer I believe it to be true, but we don't know what the agency takes!


On Thursday, 24 July 2014 12:42:28 UTC+1, Will Jessop wrote:
>
> On 24 July 2014 12:25, Adam Holt <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: 
> > Will: There is a difference between what wages should be, and what is 
> being 
> > offered by the majority of companies in manchester. 
>
> Yep, I'm aware of that. 
>
> > There are some outliers, but if you’re talking majority of jobs are 
> going to 
> > be agency jobs, you’re not really going to get much more than that for 
> entry 
> > level, unfortunately. I’d like to see where you think these 35k entry 
> level 
> > jobs are in manchester? 
>
> The other Adam said entry -> mid, I just read mid. 
>
> For comparison my first job (January 2000*) was tech support and I was 
> on 18k within 3 months. That's 14 years ago. That might be what 
> agencies in Manchester are oferring, but it's still bollocks. At that 
> sort of level you should consider freelancing, contracting or remote 
> work. 
>
> Will. 
>
> * This was in London, but London wages aren't *that* much more for a 
> lot of jobs. 
>

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