I'm scared to death of the incumbents because I've
seen, even experienced, their nefarious methods.  You
can do almost anything under the protection of
government regulation.  The last time around, with the
established telecoms and spectrum licensing processes,
under the last generation of activists, incumbents
went around to all the NGO's and promised, and sent,
funding as long as they avoided deployment and access
issues.  This, coupled with government mistruths and
false promises as cover, and there were too many to
count... one failed lie only saw the introduction of
another... allowed the appearance of activity on
resolving the divide.  Our civil society leaders
provided cover!  Even though filled with experts,
their organizations actually helped to prevent a
solution contrary to stated goals!  I've been a part
of this process, and know what I'm talking about.  In
fact, some of their leaders will also tell you this,
but only in private.

However, this new generation working with WiFi, and
less well heeled, hasn't even been able to extract
(ill-gotten) funding from the incumbents!

If you're not fighting incumbents in an organized
fighting manner, you're inadvertantly helping them.

Of course, this message has only brought me
ingratitude, invective... even remorse.  But, it
doesn't change the truth.

Best, Alan

--- "Marcos R. Lara"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> here here... that man is right...
> 
> but then who am i?
> 
> MRL
> 
> At 02:55 PM 12/9/2002 -0800, you wrote:
> >Most of the WiFi user groups are blowing it right
> >now, while their leaders fool themselves into 
> >believing they'll benefit financially.  I know the
> >incumbents, and I know government... they'll blow 
> >right by the user groups... unless they adopt the 
> >city first.  You've been reading my onlist posts, 
> >right?
> >
> >They're leaving vacuums open in local government,
> >regulatory processes and physical networks... all
> >benefit the incumbents.  Nature abhors a vacuum.  I
> >saw it happen earlier with the telecoms. 
> >Government was the last cause.  It's happening all 
> >over again.  And, now we're the cause.
> >
> >You need the stakeholders, which is why you need
> >the platform.  You need the municipal governments,
> >which is why you need the local stakeholders.  You 
> >need a non-profit to lead, otherwise government 
> >intrudes.
> >
> >Alan

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