I don't see the value of the debate where it has degraded to the point of people arguing to what form of theft it can be analagous.
Sharing with consent is what we are about. Sharing without consent is not a community wireless issue. It is a nice topic, and can provide great discussion, but we don't NEED to rely on unconsenting nodes. Educate everyone so that they too can choose to share. That is what we are about. Please, this is the second round of fruitless debate. Thank You, Jacob ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 1:29 PM Subject: [nycwireless] Re: Not a Dead horse- the goal > Why stop? > > This is THE ISSUE. Who owns wifi. Will it be a commons, where > some choose to give and others only take. Will this be open > source or owned by Verizon. > > This is really the only issue worth tackling... > > In my opinion, if you choose to put no security on your node, it > means you're willing de facto or explicity to share...and I dont > think any court could find otherwise. And I believe that arguing > for this position is the only way to push towards free Wifi, as > opposed to Verizon dominated... > > Don't you see what Verizon is trying to do. They want to make use > continue to buy phone lines and DSL, in an age where we no longer > need them...and cable modem is better... > > > > Message: 5 > > Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 12:01:03 -0400 > > From: "Jacob Farkas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: DEAD HORSE -was- Re: [nycwireless] Goal Accomplished > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Message-ID: > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Gentlemen, > > > > We should put this topic to sleep now, don't you think? > > > > In short, 3 views. > > > > A. Node owner is too stupid = I could use any access point I > > want > > B. End user shouldn't just latch on to any open AP, if no visible > > consent > > from node owner = theif. > > C. Node owner should secure own network, if he doesn't he can't > > complain > > when people freeload, but community networking groups shouldn't > > promote such > > activity. > > > > Can we now stop? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jacob Farkas > > NYCwireless List Moderator > > > -- > NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ > Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ > Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ > -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
