Re: [nycwireless] Re: Confessions of a War Driver

[Daniel Thor Kristjansson]

You know I'm going to put marcel in my kill file. I keep getting riled
up by him. But he's just another stupid troll using our mailing list to
sow fear, uncertainty and doubt.

-- Daniel



On Thu, 1 Jul 2004, Bruce Ehlers wrote:

]It is always amazing to me how folks quote the law like they know it
]and it is absolute... If someone were a little interested they could
]look up the section of the US Code that is quoted below by the last
]contributor. I did and you can find it here:
]http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/2511.html. It can be summarized
]by reading this particular section:
]
]2. (g)
]It shall not be unlawful under this chapter or chapter 121 of this
]title for any person -
]
](i)
]
]to intercept or access an electronic communication made through an
]electronic communication system that is configured so that such
]electronic communication is readily accessible to the general public;
]
]1st of all this chapter is really aimed at intercepting phone calls
]but the above chapter makes it pretty clear that if left open to the
]general public, it is not illegal.
]
]Thanks,
]
]====================
]Bruce Ehlers
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]
]
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]Subject: [nycwireless] Re: Confessions of a War Driver
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]
]Daniel Thor Kristjansson wrote:
]
]> It may be illegal in some places, it may not. Depends on how good
]> your
]>
]> lawyer is and how wasteful of taxpayer money our prosecutor is.
]
] Where in the US is it not illegal?
]See- 2001 PATRIOT Act  and 18 U.S.C. �2511
]
]>
]>
]> -- Daniel
]
]From-National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers (NACDL)
]
]"Unfortunately, tales of consultants who are prosecuted criminally or
]civilly for informing
]authorities of vulnerabilities are common. A recent cases is that of
]Stefan Puffer, a computer
]security analyst who was indicted after demonstrating to the Harris
]County, Texas District
]Clerk's office that ITS wireless computer network was vulnerable to
]unauthorized users. See
]"County Cuts Off Computer Network", Houston Chronicle, by Steve
]Brewer,
]March 21, 2002,
]available at
]http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/topstory/1302663#top.
]See also, "Ethical
]Hacker Faces War Driving Charges", The Register, by John Leyden, July
]26, 2002, available at
]http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/tech/news/1507766. Many computer
]security
]practitioners fearfully view this prosecution as a case of shooting
]the
]messenger."
]
]Here we have someone HELPING the auth. and they still locked him up.
]If you have not noticed the Feds are even more agressive, let me know
]if
]your "open lawn, lawn for rent" defense works with them.
]
]I will wait right here..........
]
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