I think it's a bit trite to suggest that somehow there are laws 
governing the use of an open wireless Internet connection and not 
quote them specifically. You throw out all sorts of inuendo and 
rhetoric suggesting that the Patriot Act has anything to do with this 
discussion is way of base. You also suggested that the US Code Section 
had anything in it to make it illegal. I went to the section you 
suggested and found it to be exactly the opposite, "It shall not be 
unlawful under this chapter or chapter 121 of this title for any 
person - to intercept or access an electronic communication made 
through an electronic communication system that is configured so that 
such electronic communication is readily accessible to the general 
public;" Then you say that was not the right section. Why don't you 
provide us with facts quoting the sections of law that are appropriate 
for this discussion, instead of the horse manure you are presenting 
here?

By the way, you can read about the Patriot Act and the US Code section 
here:
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/2511.html
http://www.epic.org/privacy/terrorism/hr3162.html

I won't take up any more of the lists time until I see FACTS, not 
conjecture where the "sky is always falling".

Thanks,

====================
Bruce Ehlers
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [nycwireless] Re: Confessions of a War Driver


Unfortunately you are looking at the wrong docu met ..............

FY1- 18 U.S.C. �2511 addresses wired and WIRELESS communication 
intercepts.

Bruce Ehlers wrote:

> If someone were a little interested they could
> look up the section of the US Code that is quoted below by the last
> contributor. I did and you can find it here:
> http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/2511.html. It can be 
> summarized
> by reading this particular section:

=======================================

Riled up??? About what? The truth?

I know you don't deal with issues like this on a daily basis like I do 
so I'm
going over look your comment.  Ignoring the law is your decision. If 
you
would like me to cite specific cases from west law or pacer I will 
gladly do
so. I have given articles involving people who have been prosecuted 
for
exactly what you are saying is legal when in fact it is not as the 
evidence
shows. Taking a "maybe they will maybe they won't" is not a 
responsible path.

Have a nice day...........


Daniel Thor Kristjansson wrote:

> You know I'm going to put marcel in my kill file. I keep getting 
> riled
> up by him. But he's just another stupid troll using our mailing list 
> to
> sow fear, uncertainty and doubt.
>
> -- Daniel 


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