John, its the same old story... yin and yang.. when ever something that has the power to educate and liberate comes along... somebody else has to lambaste it... and turn it into the devils next best weapon...
if we just let the histeria die down and not FIght it.. then the resistance will loosten and things will center... good point thought.. i agree... just didnt want a good guy to have high blood pressure too long... :o) bob X---------------- Robert Kim, Wireless Internet Wifi Hotspot Advisor http://wireless-internet-broadband-service.com https://evdo.sslpowered.com/wifi-hotspot-router.html http://evdo-coverage.com http://hsdpa-coverage.com 2611 S Pacific Coast Highway 101 ste 102 Cardiff by the Sea CA 92007 : 206 984 0880 >>> "Wireless Internet Service Is ONLY Broadband with Broadband Customer Service"(tm) >>> OUR QUEST: To Kill the Cubicle! (SM) ---Shalommmmmmmm-------------------- ---------------------------------;-)---- ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Geraci" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 9:11 AM Subject: Re: [nycwireless] the anti-free wifi movement > Here's the link to the article I didn't provide originally: > http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/19/technology/19wifi.html > > The journalist IS a moron, but he's on the front page of the Times, > which gets read by millions of people who hardly know what public wifi > is, and are now being told that it breeds terrorists and child > molesters. It strikes me as a new level of accusation against open > wifi, that might be in need of a coherent response. (And I'm surprised > that the Times went with such a reactionary story.) Just checking in > to see what people's individual responses are. Lee, I like your > response. > > -j. > > > > On Mar 22, 2005, at 11:45 AM, Dustin Goodwin wrote: > > > Turn OFF WEP, broadcast your SSID and let everyone share you > > bandwidth. I didn't see the article but by the sound of it the > > journalist is a MORON. By his reasoning the mere existence of the > > Internet is the equivalent "helping child pornographers and credit > > card thieves (and maybe even terrorists)". What do I think? I think > > to sell papers and run for political offices you must scare people. > > It's the currency every a-hole has access to... fear. Funny how as a > > child we are taught sharing is good and as an adult we are taught that > > sharing is bad. > > > > Sorry that was a bit of a rant. As NYCwireless we should working on > > something like "Responsible Wifi sharing". Maybe the logo can be > > crossing guard but instead of heard they have Wifi access point. Teach > > everyone how to use Wifidog, CuWIN or the like to do authenticated > > free sharing. Would that make the fear mongers happy? > > > > - Dustin - > > > > > > John Geraci wrote: > > > >> I'm curious to hear what others think about the front-page article in > >> the NY Times on Saturday, which equated leaving your wifi open with > >> helping child pornographers and credit card thieves (and maybe even > >> terrorists). It seemed like a bit of yellow journalism to me, and > >> reflecting of how much the public has assimilated John Ashcroft's > >> point of view that we should all submit willingly to government > >> surveillance. Still, I think the groups and people that support > >> free wifi have to have a good rebuttal to the argument that was > >> made, and not just dismiss it. > >> > >> I came across a to-do list on this Sony site "lifehacker" just now > >> (http://www.lifehacker.com/software/security/todo-secure-your- > >> wireless- network-036577.php). They recommend that their readers 1. > >> set up WEP on their router 2. create an access list of what > >> computers can access the Internet 3. turn off their SSID broadcast. > >> Granted, everyone should know how to lock down their router, but it > >> seems that the press is going farther, making it your civic duty to > >> close off your Internet access. What is the free wifi movement's > >> response? Maybe it's just a good counter argument. Maybe it's > >> developing new tools that allow users to easily find some sort of > >> middle ground between fully open wifi and fully closed wifi. Not > >> sure, but I think there should be some sort of response. > >> > >> -John > >> > >> > >> -- > >> NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ > >> Un/Subscribe: > >> http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ > >> Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ > > > > > > -- > > NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ > > Un/Subscribe: > > http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ > > Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ > > > > -- > NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ > Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ > Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ > -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
