in every organization or industry expect that there will be always a "blackship" thats how this world is created. in every ACTION there is always a REACTION.
so its up to the concerned party how he will deal with it :) On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:55:49 -0800, bob evdo hsdpa wimax guy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John, > > its the same old story... yin and yang.. when ever something that has the > power to educate and liberate comes along... somebody else has to lambaste > it... and turn it into the devils next best weapon... > > if we just let the histeria die down and not FIght it.. then the resistance > will loosten and things will center... > > good point thought.. i agree... > > just didnt want a good guy to have high blood pressure too long... :o) > > bob > > X---------------- > Robert Kim, > Wireless Internet Wifi Hotspot Advisor > http://wireless-internet-broadband-service.com > https://evdo.sslpowered.com/wifi-hotspot-router.html > http://evdo-coverage.com http://hsdpa-coverage.com > 2611 S Pacific Coast Highway 101 ste 102 > Cardiff by the Sea CA 92007 : 206 984 0880 > > >>> "Wireless Internet Service Is ONLY Broadband with Broadband Customer > Service"(tm) > >>> OUR QUEST: To Kill the Cubicle! (SM) > ---Shalommmmmmmm-------------------- > ---------------------------------;-)---- > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Geraci" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 9:11 AM > Subject: Re: [nycwireless] the anti-free wifi movement > > > Here's the link to the article I didn't provide originally: > > http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/19/technology/19wifi.html > > > > The journalist IS a moron, but he's on the front page of the Times, > > which gets read by millions of people who hardly know what public wifi > > is, and are now being told that it breeds terrorists and child > > molesters. It strikes me as a new level of accusation against open > > wifi, that might be in need of a coherent response. (And I'm surprised > > that the Times went with such a reactionary story.) Just checking in > > to see what people's individual responses are. Lee, I like your > > response. > > > > -j. > > > > > > > > On Mar 22, 2005, at 11:45 AM, Dustin Goodwin wrote: > > > > > Turn OFF WEP, broadcast your SSID and let everyone share you > > > bandwidth. I didn't see the article but by the sound of it the > > > journalist is a MORON. By his reasoning the mere existence of the > > > Internet is the equivalent "helping child pornographers and credit > > > card thieves (and maybe even terrorists)". What do I think? I think > > > to sell papers and run for political offices you must scare people. > > > It's the currency every a-hole has access to... fear. Funny how as a > > > child we are taught sharing is good and as an adult we are taught that > > > sharing is bad. > > > > > > Sorry that was a bit of a rant. As NYCwireless we should working on > > > something like "Responsible Wifi sharing". Maybe the logo can be > > > crossing guard but instead of heard they have Wifi access point. Teach > > > everyone how to use Wifidog, CuWIN or the like to do authenticated > > > free sharing. Would that make the fear mongers happy? > > > > > > - Dustin - > > > > > > > > > John Geraci wrote: > > > > > >> I'm curious to hear what others think about the front-page article in > > >> the NY Times on Saturday, which equated leaving your wifi open with > > >> helping child pornographers and credit card thieves (and maybe even > > >> terrorists). It seemed like a bit of yellow journalism to me, and > > >> reflecting of how much the public has assimilated John Ashcroft's > > >> point of view that we should all submit willingly to government > > >> surveillance. Still, I think the groups and people that support > > >> free wifi have to have a good rebuttal to the argument that was > > >> made, and not just dismiss it. > > >> > > >> I came across a to-do list on this Sony site "lifehacker" just now > > >> (http://www.lifehacker.com/software/security/todo-secure-your- > > >> wireless- network-036577.php). They recommend that their readers 1. > > >> set up WEP on their router 2. create an access list of what > > >> computers can access the Internet 3. turn off their SSID broadcast. > > >> Granted, everyone should know how to lock down their router, but it > > >> seems that the press is going farther, making it your civic duty to > > >> close off your Internet access. What is the free wifi movement's > > >> response? Maybe it's just a good counter argument. Maybe it's > > >> developing new tools that allow users to easily find some sort of > > >> middle ground between fully open wifi and fully closed wifi. Not > > >> sure, but I think there should be some sort of response. > > >> > > >> -John > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ > > >> Un/Subscribe: > > >> http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ > > >> Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ > > > > > > > > > -- > > > NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ > > > Un/Subscribe: > > > http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ > > > Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ > > > > > > > -- > > NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ > > Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ > > Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ > > > > -- > NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ > Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ > Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ > -- ----------------------------------------------------------- http://BarangayWireless.net " who said internet is only for the city? 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