Dustin, I'm all for a free market, are you? Are you OK with a muni network proposal competing on a level playing field with a proposal from a commercial enterprise? I'm not for making everything political. I'm open for a better way to describe our difference of opinion. Are you?
Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: Dustin Goodwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:29 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [nycwireless] Governement run telecom and broadband > > > Jim, > Maybe making everything political is just a way to distract > people from > the real issue. The lack of properly functioning free market in > broadband has led to crappy over-priced services for American > consumers > and businesses. The lack of public policy that encourages > competition in > broadband hurts American in the long run. > > - Dustin - > > Jim Henry wrote: > > >Dustin, > > "Now that Jim Henry has shown his true colors nothing he > says can > >be taken seriously." > > > >Now was that nice? What ARE my true colors? Did you miss > my message > >criticizing Verizon? > > > >As to PFF, better check them out. Go to www.pff.org. Click on the > >"About PFF" link. (Hint: If you do that, it will tell you > what they say > >they are > >about!) > >They seem to be pretty upfront about their mission, what > they promote and > >where they are coming from. I happen to agree with a lot of > that. They ALSO > >tell you who they are and who their supporters are. > > > >Is public policy advocacy only OK with you when it is > promoting leftist > >policy? > > > >Jim > > > > > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Dustin Goodwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 12:51 PM > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Cc: [email protected] > >>Subject: Re: [nycwireless] Governement run telecom and broadband > >> > >> > >>This report is authored by the Progress & Freedom people that > >>have been > >>widely outed as "Astroturf" outfit. Astroturf is new use of > >>the term to > >>describe fake consumer groups and think tanks that are just > >>funded with > >>money from Verizon and the like. These firms are nothing but > >>a new form > >>of lobbying by the incumbents meant to look like real > >>research. If you > >>like to get a list of firms that produced industry funded > papers and > >>research. Check out this article in which Progress & Freedom is > >>specifically outed. Now that Jim Henry has shown his true > >>colors nothing > >>he says can be taken seriously. He is a mouthpiece for the > >>telecom lobby > >>and supporter of telecom monopolies. I thought the quick turn to > >>shouting about socialism made him suspect in the first place. > >> > >>*Bell SkunkWorks* *101* > >> > >>*/What is Astroturf? Skunk Works?/* > >><http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Astroturf>*/ ---/*/The > >>secret workings to deceive the public./ > >> > >>http://www.newnetworks.com/skunkworks101.html > >> > >> > >>http://muniwireless.com/municipal/504 > >> > >>"Sascha Meinrath posted > >><http://www.saschameinrath.com/?q=node/view/57> > >>a list of members of the boards of directors of two other > "astroturf > >>organizations", groups that claim to be looking out for the best > >>interests of the average consumer - but a quick look at their > >>boards of > >>directors tells you everything you need to know about them: > >> > >>Progress & Freedom Foundation > >> > >>*George A. (Jay) Keyworth II - Hewlett Packard Company and General > >>Atomics * Raymond L. Gifford - President PFF * Jeffrey > Eisenach - PFF > >>and CapAnalysis * Mark Grady - George Mason Law School * > >>Larry Harlow - > >>Timmons & Company, Inc. * Peter Harter - ZG VEntures LLC" > >> > >>- Dustin - > >> > >>Jim Henry wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Here's an interesting study on government going into the telecom > >>>business. > >>> > >>>http://www.pff.org/issues-pubs/pops/pop11.3govtownership.pdf > >>> > >>>Jim > >>> > >>>-- > >>>NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ > >>>Un/Subscribe: > >>>http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ > >>>Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >>-- > >>No virus found in this incoming message. > >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >>Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.14.14/222 - Release > >>Date: 1/5/2006 > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.14.17/228 - Release > Date: 1/12/2006 > > -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
