Hi Mark,

Mark Rickerby wrote:
> I don't think the idea of a cultural portal is a bad one, but I have
> never felt NZLive was a good realization of this idea. However I
> remain unconvinced with the arguments about wasting taxpayers money
> because the vast majority of 'waste' goes directly into Wellington's
> local economy anyway 
See the Broken Window fallacy - 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window

Money spent on web development in Wellington is money _not_ spent on 
nationwide broadband, nurses, etc.

> (it's easy to understand why others feel
> differently), but I do agree in the case that the money has clearly
> been squandered. I'm not sure how clear it is in this case, the only
> empirical evidence seems to be the graph of traffic stats.
>
> What nobody has raised is that this outcome is might be due in no
> small part to the private sector contractors who made the site lacking
> the complete vision (or perhaps the $$ they were demanding) to produce
> something that lived up to the concept and promise of a cultural
> portal, and instead has become a basic events guide site.
>
> Most of the issues being expressed about what NZLive should or should
> not be doing are not just a case of government management
> (mismanagement if you insist), but are emergent from the relationship
> between the government and private sector. To a large extent,
> government departments rely on the good judgment of their business and
> design partners to guide them.
>   
I couldn't possibly comment ;-)
> When agencies enter into these relationships, there is not necessarily
> a clear pathway from the high level rhetoric of ministers, to the
> actual administration of funding and management of projects. That's
> just a simple fact of any hierarchical organization.
>
> A lot of people arguing about this kind of spending don't realize how
> much of our educational and cultural fabric is derived from this
> funding, 
It all depends on the opportunity cost, doesn't it.
> and how impoverished we would be without the various things
> that are being funded. Spending money is not synonymous with wastage,
> each case has to be assessed in context.
>
> I would be hesitant to publicly lambast government and MCH, without
> first knowing the details of these relationships and the lines of
> responsibility. Promoting arts and culture is a part of MCH's mandate,
> and whether or not NZLive achieves this, it is designed to achieve
> this, which is enough to justify its existence from a funding
> perspective. Looking at the documents it's clear that this project was
> initiated long before EventFinder launched, so at the point of its
> initiation, there would have been no such service.
>
> The problem I have trying to process some of the arguments here, is
> that apart from the graph of traffic, I don't see what the evidence is
> that the website has failed to meet its objectives. Overpriced, yes.
> Failure, unclear.
>
> For what it's worth, I would rather see the NZLive money spent on arts
> funding directly.
>   
Good point.


All the best, Grant
> >
>
>   

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