Hi Gregor,

I'm a ZF fanboy, but I still agree with the Symfony dorks here. ;-)

I've worked with a number of ZF projects and the structure of the MVC side 
of things can differ greatly (ever had a look at Magento?). It's true, ZF is 
more of a Library with an MVC controller and only a reccommended method of 
file structuring as Mohammed pointed out.

The main reason why I love ZF is actually because of this. ZF (or portions 
there-of) can be dropped into any code base and used. I've heard of a few 
Cake and CodeIgniter devs doing just that. Non-uniformity of ZF is far 
outweighed by this ability with the sort of projects I work on and the 
developers I work with.

But if the choice is between these two, and structuring standards is the 
most important consideration, Symfony wins based on what I've seen when 
reviewing pretty much all the big boys.

Aaron


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "gregor brabyn" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:15 AM
Subject: [phpug] PHP Frameworks & PHP Accelerators



I know PHP Frameworks have been discussed alot here but I have a few 
questions I am not easily finding trustworthy answers for elsewhere.

Our agency is looking to adopt a PHP framework. We have a situation where 
projects are often passed around to different developers during their 
lifecycle so one of the main considerations is that code gets standardised 
in its structure. Symfony & Zend are the 2 frameworks in the shortlist.

First question. I understand that Symfony really should be using a PHP 
Accelerator in the production environment. Is it the same case with Zend?

We are looking to use the framework on projects that are not necessarily 
that large, just have some complex functionality where the framework can 
speed up development and make the code structure standardised. Are both 
these frameworks appropriate for this? There will of course be large 
projects as well.

I know RAM is cheap but is there a problem with using up lots of RAM when 
there may be a situation of lots of sites that aren't used that often and a 
PHP Accelerator is used?

I have been reading that Zend is quite a loose framework and some have been 
referring to it as almost a library of code. Does this mean developers will 
be able structure their Zend Framework code in quite varied ways making it 
harder for other developers quickly pick up the code and work with it.

I will be grateful for your answers.

Greg







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