Thanks for your answers to my questions. 

It is a good point about being able to drop portions ZF into other code. We 
have existing websites that are going to receive additons and changes for years 
to come and will make up a large proportion of our overall coding time for some 
time yet. There could be gains to being able to use portions of our choosen 
framework (if we use ZF) in these projects aswell.

Greg


--- On Tue, 28/7/09, Aaron Cooper <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: Aaron Cooper <[email protected]>
> Subject: [phpug] Re: PHP Frameworks & PHP Accelerators
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Tuesday, 28 July, 2009, 12:36 PM
> 
> Hi Gregor,
> 
> I'm a ZF fanboy, but I still agree with the Symfony dorks
> here. ;-)
> 
> I've worked with a number of ZF projects and the structure
> of the MVC side 
> of things can differ greatly (ever had a look at Magento?).
> It's true, ZF is 
> more of a Library with an MVC controller and only a
> reccommended method of 
> file structuring as Mohammed pointed out.
> 
> The main reason why I love ZF is actually because of this.
> ZF (or portions 
> there-of) can be dropped into any code base and used. I've
> heard of a few 
> Cake and CodeIgniter devs doing just that. Non-uniformity
> of ZF is far 
> outweighed by this ability with the sort of projects I work
> on and the 
> developers I work with.
> 
> But if the choice is between these two, and structuring
> standards is the 
> most important consideration, Symfony wins based on what
> I've seen when 
> reviewing pretty much all the big boys.
> 
> Aaron
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "gregor brabyn" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:15 AM
> Subject: [phpug] PHP Frameworks & PHP Accelerators
> 
> 
> 
> I know PHP Frameworks have been discussed alot here but I
> have a few 
> questions I am not easily finding trustworthy answers for
> elsewhere.
> 
> Our agency is looking to adopt a PHP framework. We have a
> situation where 
> projects are often passed around to different developers
> during their 
> lifecycle so one of the main considerations is that code
> gets standardised 
> in its structure. Symfony & Zend are the 2 frameworks
> in the shortlist.
> 
> First question. I understand that Symfony really should be
> using a PHP 
> Accelerator in the production environment. Is it the same
> case with Zend?
> 
> We are looking to use the framework on projects that are
> not necessarily 
> that large, just have some complex functionality where the
> framework can 
> speed up development and make the code structure
> standardised. Are both 
> these frameworks appropriate for this? There will of course
> be large 
> projects as well.
> 
> I know RAM is cheap but is there a problem with using up
> lots of RAM when 
> there may be a situation of lots of sites that aren't used
> that often and a 
> PHP Accelerator is used?
> 
> I have been reading that Zend is quite a loose framework
> and some have been 
> referring to it as almost a library of code. Does this mean
> developers will 
> be able structure their Zend Framework code in quite varied
> ways making it 
> harder for other developers quickly pick up the code and
> work with it.
> 
> I will be grateful for your answers.
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> 


      


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