+1 for Mailchimp.

although I'd have to agree *slightly* about the non-techie comment.
Not so much a "techie" but just someone that might understand HTML
would probably be better.

I use it for Amnesty NZ's emails (several a month!) and it is
generally our comms team which drafts and sends. No tech skill amongst
them, and there haven't been much tech queries to my technical team at
all! :-)


On Jul 9, 1:42 pm, Craig Boxall <[email protected]> wrote:
> +1 for CampaignMonitor
>
> * It is far easier to use by a non-techie person than MailChimp.
> * The API is well documented and implemented.
> * You can brand it with your own logo if you need clients to login and use it.
> * Can do what Nigel mentioned below.
>
> Check outhttp://www.campaignmonitor.com/apifor more info on the API and what 
> it can do.
>
> +0.5 for MailChimp. Its a great product but far too confusing for 
> non-techies. We have a few clients that use it and they are constantly on the 
> phone to us asking for help with the UI.
>
> Cheers
> Craig
>
> On 9/07/2010, at 1:35 PM, Nigel Hulls wrote:
>
> > +1 for mailchimp, with their api you can generate and send emails from 
> > within your app without having to manually login to their website.
>
> > Have yet to have any mail delivery problems with them yet, always seems to 
> > get through to hotmail, gmail and yahoo.
>
> > On 9 July 2010 13:07, Aaron Cooper <[email protected]> wrote:
> > We've done alot of work with email marketing services. The setup of the 
> > server is vitally important as there are so many hidden things in the way 
> > they are configured that can automatically break the game at the client end 
> > if their spam filters do reverse checking on the source server. This is the 
> > benefit of paid services like Mailchimp. The servers are configured by 
> > specialists for optimum delivery. If you plan on doing this yourself, you 
> > want to allow for some research in how this all works. If the  server isn't 
> > setup right, it won't matter how your code works, or what your content is, 
> > you won't even get that far.
>
> > The way around this is to use your own software in a normal hosting 
> > environment, and set it up to use an external SMTP service. Best of both 
> > worlds so to speak.www.smtp.comis a good place to start to get an idea of 
> > the cost of such a service.
>
> > As for the software, I've had alot of experience with Email Marketer from 
> > Interspire.http://www.interspire.com/emailmarketer/. My experience with it 
> > and the company is both good and bad. Their licensing changes in the past 
> > have been very ugly, and at one stage they were removing complaint after 
> > complaint from their forums and even banned some users for hearsay. Haven't 
> > upgraded or been there for a while so not sure now. The product is fairly 
> > good. The original was great. Some of the upgrades have been a little buggy 
> > however and some users have chosen not to upgrade. My last look at them was 
> > about a year ago, so a trial might be worth a shot. The software will 
> > certainly do everything you have listed and then some. There was even talk 
> > of SMS messaging at one stage.
>
> > Aaron
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Olwen Williams
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 11:55 AM
> > Subject: [phpug] Mailing List Software
>
> > I tried to send this from my gmail account but maybe I messed up the 
> > subscription there because it never made it.
>
> > One of my customers has a need for some versatile mailing list software 
> > that has several features.
>
> > Must allow customers to come from a number of sources (I can push them into 
> > a database from my sources)
> > Must allow customers to subscribe/unsubscribe
> > Customers must be able to select different emails that they will get
> > Preferably has some reasonably comprehensive survey components
> > Easy interface for entering emails.
> > Emails sent in the back end (i.e. schedule them to be sent and it just 
> > happens over a period of hours)
> > Some emails will be sent automatically when something triggers them.  This 
> > may come from several sources.
>
> > They have a Joomla site, but they also have other software that supplies 
> > leads.
>
> > I've discussed it briefly with one developer who said he had had a 50% 
> > failure rate sending to Xtra (falling into spam filters) and suggested that 
> > a commercial service might be better.  I'm prepared to consider that if it 
> > had the flexibility for us to push our leads into it.
>
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