i feel that the whole proprietary development for iPhone or android is
a bit a step back anyway. why not just write nice web apps that work
on both - works for a surprising lot of problems. games are a
different beast though ... but how many do you write normally?

cheers
lenz

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Rimu Atkinson <[email protected]> wrote:
> I've been reading up on Android development recently, and to be honest I'm
> really struggling to get to grips with it. They have an entirely different
> framework with completely new terminology that I'm having trouble
> translating into concepts that I'm familiar with.
>
> YMMV. Might be easier for those who haven't been purely web developers for
> as long as me...
>
> R
>
> On 02/08/10 14:43, Harvey Kane wrote:
>
> I just ordered myself a Nexus One, should arrive tomorrow. After doing a
> stack of reading and weighing up all the pros and cons of both platforms
> (both platforms have plenty of each), I decided I just couldn't be bothered
> with Apple's proprietary attitude towards everything and that was what
> swayed me. That, and the Android SDK.
>
> Iphone apps seem to be leagues ahead of Android apps though - it's been
> around longer, and more apps made by professional developers rather than
> enthusiasts. There is very little in the Android market that has me itching
> for my card number at the moment.
>
> The nexus seemed to be the best available Android option (at least for my
> needs). There are plenty of things that suck about the Nexus like the lack
> of internal storage for apps, no skype / Civilization Revolution / [name of
> other quality apps that Iphone has], and the lack of front-facing camera.
> I'm also told on good authority the support for HTC devices is a bit average
> in NZ. But instead you get a removable battery and SD card, a standard
> micro-USB cable for charging/connecting, pinch-to-zoom (which other androids
> dont have), and you don't have to deal with the traumatic experience that is
> Itunes. The Android SDK seems to be powerful, well documented, and works on
> Windows. I'm told the voice input features of the Nexus are badass as well,
> but I'll need to do my own testing on this.
>
> That was my take on it - I'd love to wait a year for Android apps to catch
> up, but I needed a new phone now.
>
> Harvey.
>
>
>
> On 2/08/2010 1:59 p.m., Aaron Cooper wrote:
>
> I've been leaning towards Android since the Nexus. Now, the only droid
> handsets I'm keen on are the Dell jobbies, and they won't be out till the
> end of the year.
>
> I think a new hardware version is a big ask. But it's the only thing keeping
> fringe buyers from signing up. Still, it might explain why Vodafone NZ
> obviously got the crumbs in terms of supply.
>
> Lenz, yeah I played with one a first mobile yesterday. Other than this
> antenna talk, it's a rather outstanding device.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Chris Penny
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 1:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [phpug] [OT] iPhone 4
> I haven't been able to test it myself yet, but a friend of mine mentioned to
> me that he is experiencing the "Death Grip" with the iPhone 4 he picked up
> on Friday.
>
> Apple stop giving out free bumpers in September, so I am curious if that
> means they're going to announce a new model with a "fix" - that being said,
> I'm not waiting around for it. I'm leaning towards Android now more than
> ever.
>
>
> Kind regards
>
> Chris
>
> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Aaron Cooper <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> So I have thus far put off buying a decent handset for 5 years, but I've
>> had my fill of Blackberry.
>>
>> Is anyone using the iPhone 4 on Vodafone? Either an import or someone who
>> managed to pick one up at the third-world launch last week?
>>
>> I'm well aware of the antenna issue, but just wondering what Kiwis had to
>> report when run on our own carrier. There doesn't seem to be any kiwi
>> reports online yet.
>>
>> A
>>
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