From: "lenz" <[email protected]>
the only thing that i think we should all remember is that google is
not the nice guy giving us a good mobile platform for free without
pushing its own agenda. the apple evil google good thing is going to
end well.

I will say that I have always agreed with part of this. But I don't think it's so much a case of Apple being regarded as evil as it is a case of Apple being regarded as strictly controlling the iPhone Ecosystem, an ecosystem that is often dictated by corporate tactics.

But the part I do agree with is Google is not the magical nice guy. As I said earlier, I was put off the Nexus (and Android to a degree) due to having no native Outlook sync support. I did find a way around that however, which was to export contacts and icals to Google apps, which in turns syncs to the device.

Not going to happen. Repeated manual steps aside, that's my data.

Even my old Samsung Soul sync'd with Outlook (and other clients) and that's only $250 worth. The lack of native support on Android is surely a tactical move associated with Google Apps vs Office (which is smart). But some companies will NEVER migrate to the cloud in it's current form.

A

----- Original Message ----- From: "lenz" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [phpug] Re: [OT] iPhone 4


i smell the flame bait ... won't take it though :-)

the only thing that i think we should all remember is that google is
not the nice guy giving us a good mobile platform for free without
pushing its own agenda. the apple evil google good thing is going to
end well.

... i simply use what works best for me at the time - which is why i
am still on apple stuff  but who knows what i'll be using in say 3
years from now.

cheers
lenz

On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Dave Lane <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Lenz,

On 04/08/10 11:28, lenz wrote:
hi,

On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Dave Lane <[email protected]> wrote:
stunning performance and latest open source Android Linux goodness.

this comes up again and again ... and is the main thing to bash the
iPhone. to get the open source version of your latest android you
actually have to wait for your lovely carrier to authorise it and
patch it with what ever restrictions he likes to put in place ... or
you are back to the iPhone version of jail breaking it and flashing it
with your own version of the open source goodness. i don't really see
what i gain from a users perspective. open source for the sake of it?
maybe i miss something though ...

Heh heh. Yeah, most of the handset vendors do somewhat user-hostile
things to their phones in the name of "consistency of experience",
"supportability", etc. but ultimately it comes down to the fact that,
unlike the iPhone, which has a core operating system that is not
available for anyone to use or learn about, the Android OS *is* Linux.

If you do a few seconds browsing on the web, you'll find that there is a
variant of the Android OS for every set of user requirements out
there... the average user might never have any interest in changing from
the default one provided with the phone (or upgrades pushed out by the
provider)... but for those who *do* want to explore, play, develop, the
possibilities are huge and exciting. Moreover, the innovations those
people develop get rolled back into future versions of Android for
everyone's benefit.

It may be a rabble and there might be a lot of so-called
fragmentation... but Android is moving forward at a blistering rate, and
will leave the iPhone in the dust. Guaranteed. The handset providers
simply try to take a "best of" collection of Android capabilities to
provide their users with a good, stable phone when they buy it. Android
has already blown past the iPhone in the US market. RIM's Blackberry is
now in its sights.

Apple's making a huge profit on the iPhone, and bully for them... but
surely the people buying them have to feel stung that they're clearly
paying a premium for a phone that's no better (and in some cases not as
good) than the less costly, more extensible Android.

Cheers,

Dave

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