I will talk about rapid prototyping at the next Perl mongers in Wellington - as a preparation for the next Startup Weekend Wellington end of july. For those interested in this sort of stuff, come along and discover that perl is not that hard after all (i know this is a PHP list but the OP mentioned ruby too :-)
http://wellington.pm - the next meeting should be announced real soon. cheers lenz On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Alexei Tenitski <[email protected]> wrote: > Have a look at Yii. > It is easy to work with / learn and is designed for rapid application > development (rather then Zend, for example). > > Cheers, > Alexei > > > Michael Mitchell wrote: >> >> +1 for SIlverstripe >> >> For rapid development you cannot challenge the speed of pumping >> something out in Silverstripe and the added benefits of having an admin >> interface already made saves a great deal of time. >> >> If you feel like a large learning curve ZF2 + Doctrine make a good >> combo... would not recommend for a less experienced php developer though. >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> Michael Mitchell >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Stu Meads - Dynamic Developments >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> +1 for Silverstripe >> >> >> On 26/06/2012 9:05 a.m., Paul Bennett wrote: >>> >>> As an aside, don't forget Silverstipe. >>> >>> It's generally thought of as "just a CMS" but it is built on an >>> MVC framework that does a good job of enforcing separation of >>> concerns, comes with a large library of helper classes, has an ORM >>> that builds db tables and organises data relationships based on >>> rules set in code, *and* you get an admin interface for content >>> and data models (using modeladmin) out of the box*. Definitely >>> worth a look >>> >>> >>> * steak knives not included. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Paul Bennett >>> MoveForward - Web Development for Design Companies >>> http://www.moveforward.co.nz >>> 06 308 9722 <tel:06%20308%209722> >>> 027 255 8495 <tel:027%20255%208495> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Craig Boxall >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> I think you'll find that any of those will be better that just >>> PHP5 by itself. But like James was getting at, depending on >>> what you are trying to achieve could sway you more towards one >>> than another. >>> >>> Another one to add to the mix is Silex - a micro-framework >>> created by the same team behind Symfony. >>> http://silex.sensiolabs.org/ >>> >>> Good for webapps that have simple controllers/logic such as >>> API driven sites etc. >>> >>> Code Igniter is great if you want to use a CMS as you could >>> probably turn the project on its head and use Expression >>> Engine and delve into Code Igniter when needed. >>> >>> Never been a huge fan of Cake PHP - It's close to Symfony but >>> in my opinion, nowhere as good/complete/polished/optimised etc >>> so haven't taken it much further. >>> >>> I think if I wasn't a PHP developer, I'd be a Ruby dev... I >>> know many PHP devs who havent turned back since making the >>> move to Ruby (and Rails) but it has its own set of pros and >>> cons that I'm not qualified to comment on. >>> >>> Which leaves Symfony... My weapon of choice for many reasons >>> but really, going back to James' original comment, it all >>> depends on what you are doing. >>> >>> * Content driven or "appy" project? >>> * Are you a product dev team or a service dev team? >>> * Or, are you building this for yourself/your company or >>> clients? >>> * Do you have long or short development cycles? >>> * Do you iterate often? >>> * Are you coding quality or quantity? >>> * etc etc... >>> >>> >>> >>> At Pixel Fusion, we predominantly use Symfony but thats >>> possibly indicative of the kind of work we do. >>> >>> Hope that helps... happy to elaborate on any of this if requested. >>> >>> Cheers >>> Craig >>> Pixel Fusion <http://pixelfusion.co.nz/> >>> >>> >>> Craig BoxallDirector >>> >>> *P /*09 353 1234 <tel:09%20353%201234> >>> *M /*021 564 522 <tel:021%20564%20522> >>> *E /*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> >>> *W /*PIXELFUSION.CO.NZ <http://pixelfusion.co.nz/>/ >>> WHERE*DESIGN & DEVELOPMENT*FUSE >>> *A /*SUITE 403 "FORBIDDEN", THE IRON BANK, 150 KARANGAHAPE RD, >>> >>> AUCKLAND / PIXEL FUSION LTD, PO BOX 311 022, GLENFIELD, NORTH >>> SHORE CITY, 0747 /MAP >>> >>> <http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?cid=7370666879334476751&q=Pixel+Fusion> >>> >>> >>> On 25/06/2012, at 10:35 PM, James McGlinn wrote: >>> >>>> On 25/06/2012, at 10:20 PM, vincenz2004 wrote: >>>> >>>>> Does anyone have an opinion/experience? >>>>> >>>>> which is best? and why? >>>> >>>> >>>> Each of them could probably be considered "the best" for a >>>> given task. Don't forget python if you're doing a round-up! >>>> >>>> What is it you want to do? >>>> >>>> >>>> Kind regards, >>>> James McGlinn >>>> __________________________________ >>>> Co-Founder & CTO >>>> Eventfinder Limited >>>> Level 1, 177 Parnell Rd, Parnell, Auckland 1052 >>>> Phone: +649 365 2342 <tel:%2B649%20365%202342> >>>> Mobile: +6421 633 234 <tel:%2B6421%20633%20234> >>>> >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> | >>>> www.eventfinder.co.nz <http://www.eventfinder.co.nz/> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <eventfinder.png> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> NZ PHP Users Group: http://groups.google.com/group/nzphpug >>>> To post, send email to [email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe, send email to >>>> [email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> NZ PHP Users Group: http://groups.google.com/group/nzphpug >>> To post, send email to [email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> >>> To unsubscribe, send email to >>> [email protected] >>> <mailto:nzphpug%[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> NZ PHP Users Group: http://groups.google.com/group/nzphpug >>> To post, send email to [email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> >>> To unsubscribe, send email to >>> [email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> >> -- >> Kind Regards >> Stu Meads >> Web Application Developer >> Dynamic Developments >> >> Phone:021 217 6864 <tel:021%20217%206864> >> >> Skype: stu.meads >> Twitter:http://twitter.com/dyndev >> >> http://www.dyndev.co.nz >> >> >> >> -- >> NZ PHP Users Group: http://groups.google.com/group/nzphpug >> To post, send email to [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> To unsubscribe, send email to >> [email protected] >> <mailto:nzphpug%[email protected]> >> >> >> >> -- >> NZ PHP Users Group: http://groups.google.com/group/nzphpug >> To post, send email to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe, send email to >> [email protected] > > > -- > NZ PHP Users Group: http://groups.google.com/group/nzphpug > To post, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe, send email to > [email protected] -- twitter: @norbu09 current project: iWantMyName.com -- NZ PHP Users Group: http://groups.google.com/group/nzphpug To post, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected]
