But it does make the lawyers happy.

EHL

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> Of Martin Atkins
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:35 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [oauth] Re: Security through obscurity?
> 
> 
> Allen Tom wrote:
> >
> > We believe that it is impossible to safeguard any secrets embedded in
> > downloadable client applications. Someone with a debugger and some
> > patience will be able to extract the secrets very quickly. Likewise,
> any
> > secret protocol between a downloadable client and a server can also
> be
> > easily reverse engineered. Therefore, it's impossible to securely
> > identify a client application, and a downloadable client
> application's
> > consumer key (even when signed with its consumer secret) is about as
> > meaningful as your browser's HTTP User-Agent string.
> >
> 
> With that in mind, it seems like requiring preregistration of desktop
> clients is providing no value whatsoever and is just an unnecessary
> barrier to creating an app.
> 
> It would be interesting to figure out how a User-Agent-like mechanism
> can be added to OAuth so that clients can say who they are in a
> browser-like way without having to pre-register.
> 
> I would expect SPs to treat such unregistered callers the way they
> treat
> registered desktop clients today. This may include, for example, not
> allowing the app to renew its access token without going through the
> interactive user approval flow a second time.
> 
> This unregistered mode would also be useful for OpenID-style web-based
> interactions where there's no pre-existing business relationship, as
> long as the web app is willing to accept the limitations of being an
> unregistered consumer. The app may wish to register for certain big
> providers to get added value in the common cases, but can do ad-hoc
> authorization against lesser-known or self-hosted SPs.
> 
> 
> 

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