By not feasible, what is the technical use case/issue? 

Phil

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On 2011-04-01, at 21:52, Skylar Woodward <[email protected]> wrote:

> Am I the only one still supporting SHOULD on this case? If someone else 
> supports this language, please speak up. Otherwise, it seems the group SHOULD 
> move forward with MUST.
> 
> As a provider, we (Kiva) must deal with the possibility of an ecosystem of 
> developer apps which can't feasibly serve HTTPS endpoints.  However, we're 
> perfectly capable of securing credential exchange and our ecosystem with our 
> own API/Network additions without holding up the working group on this point. 
>  Alternatively, if others are interested in supporting developers who can't 
> or won't establish HTTPS endpoints, I'm happy to continue the discussion to 
> work toward a solution (in this working group or side thread).
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 1, 2011, at 2:12 PM, Phil Hunt wrote:
> 
>> Unfortunately neither solution suggested so far is acceptable. So a vote 
>> from my perspective is premature.
>> 
>> I'd like to keep working for a new solution.
>> 
>> Phil
>> [email protected]
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 2011-04-01, at 10:51 AM, Oleg Gryb wrote:
>> 
>>> It's a very interesting discussion and I think, I understand both parties 
>>> well because consider myself belonging to both communities (enterprise and 
>>> networking). Still, I would vote in favor of MUST.
>>> 
>>> Considering the big size of this mailing list and the big level of 
>>> engagement of its members, why don't we vote?
>>> 
>>> The results of the vote should be taken into consideration by those who 
>>> writes the final version.
>>> 
>>> From: Francisco Corella <[email protected]>
>>> To: Eran Hammer-Lahav <[email protected]>; Mark Mcgloin 
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: OAuth WG <[email protected]>; [email protected]
>>> Sent: Fri, April 1, 2011 9:22:32 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authorization code security issue (reframed)
>>> 
>>>> So we have 2 different communities of Oauth developers that
>>>> will never agree.
>>>> 
>>>> SHOULD: Typically the social networking sites that need to
>>>> cater for tail end developers by not enforcing TLS on
>>>> redirect_uri. It is a risk to think that using strong
>>>> language in the spec will help them appreciate the issues
>>>> MUST: Typically enterprise organisations (I am in this
>>>> camp). They can enforce indirectly by only supporting
>>>> registered callback urls and ensure those use TLS
>>> 
>>> Security is at least as necessary to social networking sites
>>> as to enterprise sites.  Think about what this means for
>>> Facebook.  If you are using Wifi in a cafe and use the
>>> Facebook login button to log in to any application, a hacker
>>> can easily impersonate you.
>>> 
>>> By the way, is somebody from Facebook reading this?  If so,
>>> this is a vulnerability that Facebook has right now, and you
>>> should do something about it.  At the very least you should
>>> change the examples of redirect URIs in the developer
>>> documentation so that they use https rather than http.
>>> 
>>> Francisco
>>> 
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