Brian, thanks for reading through the document and setting fire to the strawman 
within.

Very good call on the hash inputs, I think you’re definitely right. I’m not 
sure how best to handle that apart from some kind of out-of-band delimiter. 
Maybe we should hash a dot-separated base64 encoded list? (I’m only half 
joking.)

The repeated/ordering problem is definitely one that would need to be sorted 
out (no pun intended). I think there’s some language in there that says that 
the ordering has to be the same, or that the server needs to be aware of it.

I wouldn’t be surprised if I fat-fingered in “client” in the wrong places a few 
times, too.

Also missing from the document: a means to communicate the JWT from the client 
to the RS. I envisioned it being in parallel to RFC6750, with the preferred 
method of being a header:


Authorization: Signed-Http eyj…. SIGNED JWT GOES HERE …. uyweWEafe23


With form and query parameters as other options. Note that adding this as a 
query parameter doesn’t screw up the signature calculation, since you have to 
specify which query parameters you signed.


 — Justin


> On Jul 21, 2015, at 4:19 PM, Brian Campbell <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> I think I said, at the last meeting, that I would review 
> draft-ietf-oauth-signed-http-request, which was maybe foolish of me, but I 
> thought I should be timely and send something before the meeting tomorrow. 
> Even though the document isn't on the agenda. 
> 
> Let me first say that I honestly don't know if this HTTP signing is the right 
> approach or not for presenting some kind of 'better than bearer' access 
> tokens to the RS. As such, I don't intend my reading/review of the document 
> as either an endorsement of it or opposition to it. 
> 
> That said, I did notice a couple of potential security or interoperability 
> issues that I wanted to raise.
> 
> Following the description of calculating the query parameter list and hash 
> <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-oauth-signed-http-request-01#section-3.2>
>  and validating the query parameter list and hash 
> <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-oauth-signed-http-request-01#section-4.1>
>  (text of both copied below) it seems like different query strings could 
> result in the same hash value. For example,
> 
> The query string ?foo=bar%3D&bar= processed in order shown there would have a 
> names list of ["foo", "bar"] and parameters of
>  foo=bar=
>  bar=
> and the hash would be of
>  foo=bar=bar=
> 
> While the different query string ?foo=&bar=bar%3D processed in the same 
> order, left to right, would have the same names list of ["foo", "bar"] and 
> parameters of 
>  foo=
>  bar=bar=
> and the hash would be of
>  foo=bar=bar=
> 
> It's a made up example but seems to show that different content in the query 
> string can sometimes be manipulated to produce the same hash. I don't have an 
> exploit in mind but the bad guys are smarter than me. And it's probably just 
> generally the kind of thing a security related protocol shouldn't allow for. 
> 
> Or am I misunderstanding something?
> 
> Seems like encoding and delimitation need to be explicitly handled in 
> whatever way the query parameters are dealt with. There's already a [[]] in 
> there that hints at the possibility. 
> 
> The text also says "repeated parameter names are processed separately with no 
> special handling" but, for that to work, doesn't it require that the client 
> and server process repeated parameters in the same order?
> 
> I think the header list and hash likely has similar issues as it's basically 
> the same approach.
> 
> As I look at the text again, shouldn't the 4.x sections talk about the server 
> or resource server rather than the client?
>  
>  
> 3.2 
> <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-oauth-signed-http-request-01#section-3.2>.
>   Calculating the query parameter list and hash
> 
> 
> 
>    To generate the query parameter list and hash, the client creates two
>    data objects: an ordered list of strings to hold the query parameter
>    names and a string buffer to hold the data to be hashed.
> 
>    The client iterates through all query parameters in whatever order it
>    chooses and for each query parameter it does the following:
> 
> 
>    1.  Adds the name of the query parameter to the end of the list.
> 
>    2.  Encodes the name and value of the query parameter as "name=value"
>        and appends it to the string buffer.  [[Separated by an
>        ampersand?  Alternatively we could have this also pulled into an
>        ordered list and post-process the concatenation, but that might
>        be too deep into the weeds. ]]
> 
>    Repeated parameter names are processed separately with no special
>    handling.  Parameters MAY be skipped by the client if they are not
>    required (or desired) to be covered by the signature.
> 
>    The client then calculates the HMAC hash over the resulting string
>    buffer.  The list and the hash result are added as the value of the
>    "p" member.
> 
> 
> 
> 4.1 
> <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-oauth-signed-http-request-01#section-4.1>.
>   Validating the query parameter list and hash
> 
> 
> 
>    The client has at its disposal a map that indexes the query parameter
>    names to the values given.  The client creates a string buffer for
>    calculating the hash.  The client then iterates through the "list"
>    portion of the "p" parameter.  For each item in the list (in the
>    order of the list) it does the following:
> 
>    1.  Fetch the value of the parameter from the HTTP request parameter
>        map.  If a parameter is found in the list of signed parameters
>        but not in the map, the validation fails.
> 
>    2.  Encode the parameter as "name=value" and concatenate it to the
>        end of the string buffer. [[same separator issue as above.]]
> 
>    The client calculates the hash of the string buffer and base64url
>    encodes it.  The client compares that string to the string passed in
>    as the hash.  If the two match, the hash validates, and all named
>    parameters and their values are considered covered by the signature.
> 
>    There MAY be additional query parameters that are not listed in the
>    list and are therefore not covered by the signature.  The client MUST
>    decide whether or not to accept a request with these uncovered
>    parameters.
> 
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