I don't see how rumble strips reduce the amount of space for cyclists - and, _if_ they are very low profile (thickly painted ones as opposed to speed humps, for example), they are not going to cause accidents. The only possible hazard is if they are NOT extended to the entire width of the paved area, as some drivers might try to avoid them by driving partly on the shoulder. Living in Saskatchewan for a few years, I know how effective they are, and don't believe they would be a problem. I agree however, that any road work should include expansion of the paved shoulder to 1.0 metres at the least. Cheers, Nadia -----Original Message----- From: Randy Legault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 12:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obc] Paving highway shoulders On June 14, 2001 09:46 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Personally, I don't have any concerns so far with rumble strips. I > think they do help to keep drivers awake on rural freeways. Hi, Thanks for sharing your letter with the subscribers to the Citizens for Safe Cycling and Ottawa Bicycle Club e-mail lists. I feel compelled to comment that I would have serious reservations if there were to be an expansion of the use of rumble strips particularlyif it is done without regard for the impact on cyclists. As it now stands, I find that paved shoulder widths are minimal. Reducing space for cyclists by installing rumble strips could present an inconvenience at least and a safety hazard at worst. This has been a matter of intense conflict between transport planners/engineers in several US states of late. You may want to check the following link to notes from a recent meeting of the Human Powered Transportation Committee of the American Society of Civil Engineers that touches on some of the issues in play. http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/kbarrett/curr_upd.htm I don't want to be alarmist. Rumble strips have their place. There is no conflict on major highways where bicycles are excluded. They could also be used to good effect where run-off accidents suggest that there are problems. I would contend that they should not be a general feature of highway design and that where they are used due attention must be paid to minimize negative impacts for cyclists. Thanks for the opportunity to participate in this discussion. Randy Legault Ottawa ------ To unsubscribe, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter ------ To unsubscribe, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web/mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cyberus.ca/~obcweb/Newsletter ==^================================================================ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiDo.a2i8p1 Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: [email protected] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^================================================================
